RAF Sergeant moved by Hospital in case his uniform ''offended '' people.

[Nibble]

No I have commented on the recent incident, you have for your own reasons tried to deflect criticism by querying whether the previous incident was religious based.

It would seem quite reasonable to accept the recent incident was decision driven by perceived religious sensitivities and therefore would reflect the previous one too, otherwise why implement any actions other than to randomly discriminate towards anyone for no particular reason.

I was typing an answer myself but yeah, this pretty much covers it.

 

[Creaky]

No I have commented on the recent incident, you have for your own reasons tried to deflect criticism by querying whether the previous incident was religious based.

It would seem quite reasonable to accept the recent incident was decision driven by perceived religious sensitivities and therefore would reflect the previous one too, otherwise why implement any actions other than to randomly discriminate towards anyone for no particular reason.

Hardly a deflection! Couldn't have been a drunk, someone from Ireland or any other of a multitude of other potentially 'offended' persons.

My criticism is not of those commenting on the story but the 'laziness' of those reporting it. On the one hand we have a soldier who has on the face of it been poorly treated on the other we apparently have a member of the armed forces who was the subject of an altercation due to the uniform they were wearing - the real story in my opinion is the latter incident yet this has been virtually ignored.

 

[Questions]

It's not just a couple of dimwits at a hospital though is it ? It's the constant pussyfooting around to avoid "offending" Muslims , and it leads to things like industrial scale sexual abuse not being investigated, Or perhaps Worthing isn't affected, it's certainly a talking for longer than 5 minutes in Rotherham.

Nice leap there.

 

[looney]

By native do you mean someone born in this country?

I goofed, i abreviated ethnic minority till it meant the opposite. Native would mean whites.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Something has clearly gone wrong if the Hospital is turning to the police to protect its staff who are being abused.

As for your ridiculous question, just allow me to be offended by the language that you are using. "An ethnic" ? Really!

Yeah , what's wrong with calling some one ethnic ?
regards
DR

 

[melias shoes]

They said they sorry and it wont happen again. Nothing to see here

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you ostrich syndrome. Ignore what is going on and bury your head in the sand.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you ostrich syndrome. Ignore what is going on and bury your head in the sand.

blokes a div
regards
DR

 

[BN9 BHA]

Yeah , what's wrong with calling some one ethnic ?
regards
DR

Watch out for the PC brigade

 

[alfredmizen]

Nice leap there.

its not a leap at all, its the truth, and as i said , youre pretty much unaffected in worthing.

 

[Questions]

its not a leap at all, its the truth, and as i said , youre pretty much unaffected in worthing.

So let's get this straight alfred. We are unaffected in Worthing because we don't have people pussyfooting around for fear of upsetting Muslims...... Because we don't have any Muslims in Worthing. Is this right ? I don't want any misunderstandings here.
Where do you reside by the way Alfred ?

 

[alfredmizen]

So let's get this straight alfred. We are unaffected in Worthing because we don't have people pussyfooting around for fear of upsetting Muslims...... Because we don't have any Muslims in Worthing. Is this right ? I don't want any misunderstandings here.
Where do you reside by the way Alfred ?

yep that's right , that's pretty much how I feel, and I live in haywards Heath , I've also lived in tower hamlets for 3 years , and was born and brought up in tooting , both areas with massive Muslim populations, what's your point ?

 

[Questions]

yep that's right , that's pretty much how I feel, and I live in haywards Heath , I've also lived in tower hamlets for 3 years , and was born and brought up in tooting , both areas with massive Muslim populations, what's your point ?

No point Bushy......I've just had sniff of the barmaids apron again. Do the Muslims who work in social services and the hospitals pussyfoot in favour of their fellow Muslims in Tooting and Tower Hamlets ?

 

[alfredmizen]

No point Bushy......I've just had sniff of the barmaids apron again. Do the Muslims who work in social services and the hospitals pussyfoot in favour of their fellow Muslims in Tooting and Tower Hamlets ?

Oh ok, my bad, so let's get this right , because some Muslims work in social services and hospitals we mustn't mention certain things ? righto.

 

[Questions]

Oh ok, my bad, so let's get this right , because some Muslims work in social services and hospitals we mustn't mention certain things ? righto.

I understand your point about not jumping on the obvious evidence of Asian grooming gangs in Rotherham but what I'm asking is what do The Muslims of Tooting and Tower Hamlets who work in social services and hospitals do when they find evidence of wrong doings.(or do they not work in these industries) Do they cover for their fellow Muslims ? Do they pussyfoot around the subject and keep quiet or is it just the white population who fear to offend the other Muslims. I won't bother asking again if you don't understand what I am saying.
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Just to add a quick point why are we talking about Muslims concerning the Rotherham case the offenders were of Pakistaani heritage. We don't mention if someone is Catholic or Church of England when we talk about offenders in other instances.

 

[Hastings gull]

I understand your point about not jumping on the obvious evidence of Asian grooming gangs in Rotherham but what I'm asking is what do The Muslims of Tooting and Tower Hamlets who work in social services and hospitals do when they find evidence of wrong doings.(or do they not work in these industries) Do they cover for their fellow Muslims ? Do they pussyfoot around the subject and keep quiet or is it just the white population who fear to offend the other Muslims. I won't bother asking again if you don't understand what I am saying.
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Just to add a quick point why are we talking about Muslims concerning the Rotherham case the offenders were of Pakistaani heritage. We don't mention if someone is Catholic or Church of England when we talk about offenders in other instances.

So you are saying that if they are Pakistani, they are not muslims? I thought that it was highly likely that they would be. You are quite right in that we would not mention if a rapist is CofE etc, but then the offence of rape, or whatever, would not have been committed on racial or religious lines. Surely that is the reason why. Correct me if I am wrong but these gangs targeted white vulnerable girls - do they target muslim girls?

 

[BigGully]

I understand your point about not jumping on the obvious evidence of Asian grooming gangs in Rotherham but what I'm asking is what do The Muslims of Tooting and Tower Hamlets who work in social services and hospitals do when they find evidence of wrong doings.(or do they not work in these industries) Do they cover for their fellow Muslims ? Do they pussyfoot around the subject and keep quiet or is it just the white population who fear to offend the other Muslims. I won't bother asking again if you don't understand what I am saying.
........
Just to add a quick point why are we talking about Muslims concerning the Rotherham case the offenders were of Pakistaani heritage. We don't mention if someone is Catholic or Church of England when we talk about offenders in other instances.

That really isnt good enough, it was a grooming gang that had a religious/cultural/racial dynamic that actually somehow justified perpetrating the crime against exclusively white girls, it was racially targeted.

I cannot fathom why you would try to muddy the waters any other way.

 

[Questions]

So you are saying that if they are Pakistani, they are not muslims? I thought that it was highly likely that they would be. You are quite right in that we would not mention if a rapist is CofE etc, but then the offence of rape, or whatever, would not have been committed on racial or religious lines. Surely that is the reason why. Correct me if I am wrong but these gangs targeted white vulnerable girls - do they target muslim girls?

No Hastings I don't think they did. Would they target Muslim girls if they were as vulnerable ? I don't know but I think probably not so I'm not arguing about their motives and never have. They're locked away now anyway. I asked alfred if Muslims working in hospitals or social services would turn a blind eye or pussyfoot around to coin that phrase or is it only whites for fear of offending.

 

[Questions]

That really isnt good enough, it was a grooming gang that had a religious/cultural/racial dynamic that actually somehow justified perpetrating the crime against exclusively white girls, it was racially targeted.

I cannot fathom why you would try to muddy the waters any other way.

I know all this. I'm talking about the people who don't report these crimes and if it is wholly down to fear of offending Muslims or are they like so many of the social workers I have dealt with- shit at there jobs - and are they all white social workers. No blacks or Muslims among them.

 

[Hastings gull]

No Hastings I don't think they did. Would they target Muslim girls if they were as vulnerable ? I don't know but I think probably not so I'm not arguing about their motives and never have. They're locked away now anyway. I asked alfred if Muslims working in hospitals or social services would turn a blind eye or pussyfoot around to coin that phrase or is it only whites for fear of offending.

I fully appreciate that you were asking someone else a question and would not presume to interfere. But what was questionable was your further assertion that there might be a difference between Pakistanis and muslims. Thanks for replying

 

[BigGully]

I know all this. I'm talking about the people who don't report these crimes and if it is wholly down to fear of offending Muslims or are they like so many of the social workers I have dealt with- shit at there jobs - and are they all white social workers. No blacks or Muslims among them.

I do not know, I had thought it was a fear of being accused of racism which would say social workers are primarily white or black, but perhaps there was some collusion by Muslims too, protecting the perpetrators, either way quite a shocking set of circumstances.

My wife shares your view on most social workers she has worked with too.