Beach Hut said:
I guess she'd know the answers to my suppositions then...or maybe I'm just over protective...who knows...
Radio presenters saying the parents where irresponsible (Madeleine)
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I guess she'd know the answers to my suppositions then...or maybe I'm just over protective...who knows...
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
tedebear said:
Well she started working there when Mini was there but he is now 9. She is trying to get a job in a school now but finding it difficult.
Mads has been to creche from an early age (ie under 1) and I don't regret it for a second.
Compared to some children we know who have either rarely gone or never gone to creche/nursery she is ahead in leaps and bounds. I don't mean 'academically' (whatever that means at age 4) either. Her all-round social skills, politeness, willingness to share and display care for others are streets ahead of most of her peers.
Down to the parents, down to creche, just luck or some combination of all three? I don't know.
What I do know is she loves it there. When I dropped her off yesterday morning she ran to one of her carers, threw her little arms around her and gave her a smackeroonie (as she calls a big kiss).
If she enjoys school half as much, and gets as much from it, I'll be delighted.
Compared to some children we know who have either rarely gone or never gone to creche/nursery she is ahead in leaps and bounds. I don't mean 'academically' (whatever that means at age 4) either. Her all-round social skills, politeness, willingness to share and display care for others are streets ahead of most of her peers.
Down to the parents, down to creche, just luck or some combination of all three? I don't know.
What I do know is she loves it there. When I dropped her off yesterday morning she ran to one of her carers, threw her little arms around her and gave her a smackeroonie (as she calls a big kiss).
If she enjoys school half as much, and gets as much from it, I'll be delighted.
footychick
Nicola
When we go away camping (at a campsite) we often leave the children sleeping in the tent while we go for a drink or a walk.
Does that make us bad parents?
I'm sure lots of parents do something similar, you just don't think that someone could abduct your children.
We should get behind the parents and not slaughter them, they're going through enough as it is.
Does that make us bad parents?
I'm sure lots of parents do something similar, you just don't think that someone could abduct your children.
We should get behind the parents and not slaughter them, they're going through enough as it is.
Porky
New member
Irresponsible maybe, but I don't think it warrents them having their little girl abducted, and possibly {God forbid} murdered
I can remember standing outside many a pub till closing time, {10.30} when I was eight or nine years old, while my parents and their friends were inside.
Iguess that would classed as child abuse today.
I can remember standing outside many a pub till closing time, {10.30} when I was eight or nine years old, while my parents and their friends were inside.
Iguess that would classed as child abuse today.
tedebear said:
I think we've gone the other way. The more we've used childcare (and I am talking nannies, day centres etc rather than the grandparents for babysitting!) the more * not sure what the word is (un-relaxed)* I have become. I am not sure if that is entirely the childcare situation or the other stuff that has gone on in our lives.
Starry said:
Hmmm you might be right...
I think Bozza took my point the wrong way, wasn't having a dig at toddler/child development in anyway, just a reflection on how much other people care for our kids and whether that may make us lax. But having said that Starry maybe were not, how many nurseries have parent cam now!!
cjd
Well-known member
I am amazed that so many pages, ( and the news generally) have been written about whether this poor girls parents were good or not. So many people seem to have missed the point , that the perpetrator of this awful crime is almost certainly a depraved paedophile. Whoever it was, he was going to take somebody,s child, come what may.This girl and her family happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If it wasn,t her, almost certainly some other family (maybe me, maybe you) would be going through this unimaginable pain right now. For those who would never leave their children unattended, paedophiles dont just like 3 year olds. Any child up to the age of 12 or so is fair game to them. Far more attention needs to be given to finding this man, and the many others like him who are waiting......just waiting for the opportunity to strike.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
tedebear said:
tedebear - fair enough - but a second child would change that one ..............
cjd
Well-known member
Nibble said:
I agree, and freely admit that myself and Mrs.cjd are selfish, and TRY to be as vigilant as we can with our small children to DECREASE the chances of our children being abducted. However, this action by ourselves and many more parents INCREASE the chances of children, of less vigilant parents, being abducted. The main problem is still not being addressed......the paedophile.
cjd said:
The reason I haven't addressed it is that it is too horrible to contemplate for me sorry. Too heartbreaking. I'm sure everyone on here agrees.
cjd
Well-known member
tedebear said:
Sorry Tedebear.....didn,t mean you in particular....I meant the board in general, the media and society.
cjd said:
No its alright I know you didn't mean me particularly, but I'm guessing we (the public, NSC the press etc.) will have that discussion when its found out what has really happened to the poor little girl.
eastlondonseagull
Well-known member
Not read the whole thread, but my initial reaction when the story broke was exactly that of the press / radio stations who are claiming the parents were irresponsible.
However, most parents would probably admit that at some stage or other they've made a decision which could've had a detrimental effect on their child, be it nipping down the shops, driving over the speed limit etc, and nothing's gone wrong.
You can bet anything that this couple will have discussed the pros and cons of leaving the kids alone that night, before going out, and one of them may have been more inclined to either stay in or take the kids with them. Can you possibly imagine how they must feel now?! It'll be a decision that'll haunt this couple for the rest of their lives.
However, most parents would probably admit that at some stage or other they've made a decision which could've had a detrimental effect on their child, be it nipping down the shops, driving over the speed limit etc, and nothing's gone wrong.
You can bet anything that this couple will have discussed the pros and cons of leaving the kids alone that night, before going out, and one of them may have been more inclined to either stay in or take the kids with them. Can you possibly imagine how they must feel now?! It'll be a decision that'll haunt this couple for the rest of their lives.
Pavilionaire
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Hopefully this story will remind some parents of the need to be vigilant. The summer holiday are not far away and this is always the time when the abduction numbers increase.