Radar Speed Cameras

[BensGrandad]

Whenever it was it opened it was early to mid 70s I know. At the time my solicitor made a point of the fact that I was vice chairman of a local football club, it was actually Ferring FC but he kept breaking into his speech about the fact that I was late for a game at The Goldstone hence the speeding which although he didn't say so gave the impression to the magistrates that he was talking about BHA.

To answer Hillian 1 it was an Audi Quatro GT. At the time the police were sat 1 mile south of the very high bridge just south of the juction with M25. I was surprised at the speed when they clicked the machine in the car and it came up as that speed. Not sure whether they had previously clicked it but they just said you were going rather fast and when sat in the car clicked the computer to see how fast I was going.

 

[Beach Hut]

A notice of intended prosecution has to be sent to you within fourteen days.

OK, cheers so far so good than as last Sunday

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Man up, take it on the chin and take a look at your speedo every now and again. Or, if you'd prefer to drive at your own chosen speed, feel free, just don't whine about it when you get caught.

This. Very much.

 

[surrey jim]

What you fail to grasp here, BG, apart from the fact that you're the one who's apparently broken the law here, not the police, is that the speed sites that are most frequently used are designated because they are the areas where people take the piss, and which receive the most complaints from residents about speeding motorists. I'll tell you for free that the road through Northlands Wood, being wide and quite a steep hill in places, is an absolute hotspot for it, people go tanking down there with great regularity. The residents, not unreasonably, get quite upset about this, seeing as it's designated as a 30mph limit with houses in all directions, shops, a playground area and (I think) a school not a million miles away. I'm also fairly sure that there has been at least one fatal accident on that stretch..

You are indeed correct. The accident was slightly further down than BG was 'caught'. To me it seems a place where there should be a permenant speed camera. People go far too quick down there and as you say its residential with Northlands Wood primary school and a playground on opposite sides of the road,

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8818901.Teen_bailed_after_pedestrian_dies_in_crash/

 

[BensGrandad]

You are indeed correct. The accident was slightly further down than BG was 'caught'. To me it seems a place where there should be a permenant speed camera. People go far too quick down there and as you say its residential with Northlands Wood primary school and a playground on opposite sides of the road,

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/8818901.Teen_bailed_after_pedestrian_dies_in_crash/

Wrong the school and playground are in BEECH HILL which is the road that is a turning 100yds either side of the shop and goes around in semi circle to run parallel Northlands wood Rd

 

[Hillian1]

Whenever it was it opened it was early to mid 70s I know. At the time my solicitor made a point of the fact that I was vice chairman of a local football club, it was actually Ferring FC but he kept breaking into his speech about the fact that I was late for a game at The Goldstone hence the speeding which although he didn't say so gave the impression to the magistrates that he was talking about BHA.

To answer Hillian 1 it was an Audi Quatro GT. At the time the police were sat 1 mile south of the very high bridge just south of the juction with M25. I was surprised at the speed when they clicked the machine in the car and it came up as that speed. Not sure whether they had previously clicked it but they just said you were going rather fast and when sat in the car clicked the computer to see how fast I was going.

You're living a fantasy BG, or your senile.

So far you were clocked at 128.4 mph on the M23 in 1970, which didn't exist until 1975.
In a Audi Quatro GT, which didn't exist until 1980.
By a Police car with a computer in it, in 1970.....!!!!! A computer in a Police car in 1970.!!!!!
Defended by a solicitor who convinced the Magistrate you were Chairman of BHA.

Fair play.

Is your weekend name Walter Mitty?

 

[BensGrandad]

You can think what you like as I know it happened and the case was heard at Redhill and Reigate Magistrates the solicitor was Roge Bristow who was well known in Epsom where I lived at the time. Just speaking to my son he says that I am getting confused with the date as it was after the cup Final in 1983 probably about 1985 or 86. Sorry time flies as you get older, this was not intended to confuse anybody. He even told me which car it was in and that he was about 11 being born in 1974. He could be right because in in 1970 I had a pub in Custom House East London and had a 3.5 litre Rover.

 

[Hillian1]

You can think what you like as I know it happened and the case was heard at Redhill and Reigate Magistrates the solicitor was Roge Bristow who was well known in Epsom where I lived at the time. Just speaking to my son he says that I am getting confused with the date as it was after the cup Final in 1983 probably about 1985 or 86. Sorry time flies as you get older, this was not intended to confuse anybody. He even told me which car it was in and that he was about 11 being born in 1974. He could be right because in in 1970 I had a pub in Custom House East London and had a 3.5 litre Rover.

Good job you had a good lawyer then BG, because you change your story more often than I change my pants.

 

[HAILSHAM SEAGULL]

You can think what you like as I know it happened and the case was heard at Redhill and Reigate Magistrates the solicitor was Roge Bristow who was well known in Epsom where I lived at the time. Just speaking to my son he says that I am getting confused with the date as it was after the cup Final in 1983 probably about 1985 or 86. Sorry time flies as you get older, this was not intended to confuse anybody. He even told me which car it was in and that he was about 11 being born in 1974. He could be right because in in 1970 I had a pub in Custom House East London and had a 3.5 litre Rover.

Bloody Hell, I'm expecting Eamon Andrews to appear in a minute with a Big Red Book
Tonight Bens Grandad, This is your Life

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Because of media reporting, you could be forgiven for thinking that your average Joe sits at home worrying about being murdered, raped or burgled. Whereas when surveys are done asking people what causes them the most annoyance in their everyday lives, it's inevitably things like dog shit, graffiti, cyclists on the pavement, and speeding motorists.

Edna are you sure, because if people really are more worried about dog shite etc, i really worry for our country these are all petty offences apart from speeding, but surely people who complain about speeding are talking about people who are genuinely being unaware of their surroundings and go FAR too quick.

My list would be paedophiles, gun and knife carriers, pikeys and anyone called Harry with a dog called Rosie.

I think the police shouldn't be taking note of these surveys as the sort of people who take part have nothing better to do than moan all day long.

So if you can have a word in there ear i for one would be grateful.

 

[Garage_Doors]

if you get done, it will be because they have photographic evidence of you breaking the speed limit. You may get offered a speed awareness course, but as far as a legal get out, its a very black and white offence. You were either breaking the law, or you weren't.

Camera calibration?

 

[smeariestbat]

Camera calibration?

if there anything like the alcohol breath testers, you cant use them unless they've been calibrated so i hear. i would assume there's a similar thing with the speed testing things.

 

[pasty]

I know people will say I shouldnt have been speeding but I am not sure if I was

Driving without due care and attention as well eh? Tsk tsk

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Hmm, could they be extending the truth somewhat as i was told it is 10% + 3mph usually

Those figures are an urban legend and not necessarily true. I certainly wouldn't risk points on my license by relying on that to save me but by sticking to the limit.

 

[BensGrandad]

Good job you had a good lawyer then BG, because you change your story more often than I change my pants.

Sorry I was confused with the dates, thought it was a earlier than it was but when talking with my son I realized I was years out on my estimate of the date as my son pointed, he agreed must be going senile. Perhaps that is why my solicitor told me to say nothing just yes or no he said he didn't want me to say and or but just yes or no and leave the talking to him. He was very good one minute he was on about me being Vice Chairman then about me going to a match at The Goldstone then about the number of miles I drove each year then about the charity work the football club then whether or not I got to the Brighton game before kick off etc. It was little wonder the magistrates were confused and in their summing up said that taking my licence would have serious consequences for many workers and the charity work. He was absolutely brilliant. He never once said anything that was untrue but left the magistrates to think and assume what they wanted.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

My list would be paedophiles, gun and knife carriers, pikeys and anyone called Harry with a dog called Rosie.

Do you sit at home, as Edna suggested, worrying about these? I'm pretty certain most residents here in Hove are not feeling worried about peados, guns or knives. I'm not sure of the stats but I'd suggest these three crimes are zero to non-existent.

 

[The Birdman]

UOTE=BensGrandad;5359322]I came around the bend in Northlands Rd Haywards Heath yesterday and believed may have been speeding slightly. When telling my son he said that if you can see the van it is too late as it will have clocked you. Apparently standing outside of the shops/doctors surgery it gets people as they come around the bend from the hospital. Is this not illegal as I thought they had to be in full view? Has this van with a camera in it ever been challenged?

I know people will say I shouldnt have been speeding but I am not sure if I was and if so it would have been very marginally over 30 but am interested in the principal.[
That stretch of road is very dangerous as they are campaigning for a crossing by the shop,there has many near misses and alot of children and old pepole cross the road by the doctors surgery and shop. The residents are also doing speed checks as a reminder not to speed. Don't forget it is only 30 down Fox Hill now and it won't be long until the van with its cameras will staking out the road. Brighton council want to introduce loads of 20 mile an hour zones.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Do you sit at home, as Edna suggested, worrying about these? I'm pretty certain most residents here in Hove are not feeling worried about peados, guns or knives. I'm not sure of the stats but I'd suggest these three crimes are zero to non-existent.

It might not be quite as crime free as you think.

5 Pd&w.......... Weapons in Oct.


UKCrimeStats.com - Central Hove



In September 2011, Other Crime was divided into 6 categories - Drugs, Public Disorder & Weapons (PD&W), Criminal Damage & Arson (CD&A), Theft - Shoplifting, Theft-Other and Other. In order to avoid confusion, UKCrimeStats has renamed the original "Other" category as "Other Total" which is the sum of these 6 and this is what is displayed from December 2010 to August 2011

....... Drugs PD&W CD&A shoplifting Other Theft Other Other Total
Oct 2012 0 5 7 14 19 2 47
Sep 2012 1 2 5 11 32 1 52
Aug 2012 4 2 5 12 29 3 55
Jul 2012 2 6 9 24 29 3 73
Jun 2012 0 2 12 8 29 2 53
May 2012 1 4 8 9 16 4 42
Apr 2012 0 1 9 7 12 6 35
Mar 2012 2 3 10 11 18 2 46
Feb 2012 2 7 6 9 15 2 41
Jan 2012 6 7 8 4 12 4 41
Dec 2011 0 1 5 11 13 3 33
Nov 2011 4 1 9 12 24 6 56
Oct 2011 2 4 11 13 17 7 54
Sep 2011 1 4 5 5 25 2 42

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It might not be quite as crime free as you think.

5 Pd&w.......... Weapons in Oct.


UKCrimeStats.com - Central Hove



In September 2011, Other Crime was divided into 6 categories - Drugs, Public Disorder & Weapons (PD&W), Criminal Damage & Arson (CD&A), Theft - Shoplifting, Theft-Other and Other. In order to avoid confusion, UKCrimeStats has renamed the original "Other" category as "Other Total" which is the sum of these 6 and this is what is displayed from December 2010 to August 2011

....... Drugs PD&W CD&A shoplifting Other Theft Other Other Total
Oct 2012 0 5 7 14 19 2 47
Sep 2012 1 2 5 11 32 1 52
Aug 2012 4 2 5 12 29 3 55
Jul 2012 2 6 9 24 29 3 73
Jun 2012 0 2 12 8 29 2 53
May 2012 1 4 8 9 16 4 42
Apr 2012 0 1 9 7 12 6 35
Mar 2012 2 3 10 11 18 2 46
Feb 2012 2 7 6 9 15 2 41
Jan 2012 6 7 8 4 12 4 41
Dec 2011 0 1 5 11 13 3 33
Nov 2011 4 1 9 12 24 6 56
Oct 2011 2 4 11 13 17 7 54
Sep 2011 1 4 5 5 25 2 42

45 cases of public disorder and weapons; I imagine few were guns and/or knives. And I'm pretty certain Hove is not a hot bed for peadophilia so my original point holds.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

45 cases of public disorder and weapons; I imagine few were guns and/or knives. And I'm pretty certain Hove is not a hot bed for peadophilia so my original point holds.

My policy with trusting people with our kids is 'trust nobody and keep one eye on God'.