racism in football - is there a problem?

[theacademic]

thanks Danny-Boy and arfer guinness - interesting posts. Thanks for your time on this discussion board and for those completing the survey.

 

[aolstudios]

Nope not convinced.

Your 'Jewish' analogy would for me, offer a more in-depth loathing, that might constitute racism, rather than JT's childish rant linked to any feature of another player.

John Terry would of comfortably used offensive language and tagged it to that players individual feature, ginger c**t, big nosed c**t and so on.

Its clumsy, probably offensive and inarticulate but it doesn't, for me make him a racist.

nicely put and admirably articulate but just because he's not doesn't excuse him (& neither does being England captain or a 'great leader', as his club manager and subliminally most of us would like). Does anyone else remember members of his family moaning about 'black *****' (their words) Campbell and Ferdinand getting in the England team in front of him? He's a bully, we know it and I think, pretty obviously a casual racist. Respect your posts though

 

[the silurian]

May be wrong (and I really dont like John Terry) but was he racist?
He called Ferdinand a f***ing black c*** !! Ok, no getting away from the fact that Ferdinand IS black, the argument is whether Ferdinand is c***...
So sort that out and I reckon he's not really racist, after all an earlier post mentioned calling someone a 'big nosed ginger c***'.....racist?? I dont think so

 

[theacademic]

thanks the silurian and aolstudios. if anyone has a minute spare it would be great to hear your thoughts at RACISM AND FOOTBALL IN THE 21st CENTURY

 

[aolstudios]

thanks the silurian and aolstudios. if anyone has a minute spare it would be great to hear your thoughts at RACISM AND FOOTBALL IN THE 21st CENTURY

pleasure, mate