alfredmizen
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I know a copper who has been there , he described it as being like a high security prison without the warders, his words "you really wouldn't want them living next door to you".
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R.I.P. The Jungle
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Pretty pink fairy
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Fair play to him , all we usually hear are the do gooders telling us we should let loads more in
regards
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Pretty pink fairy
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I won't watch your linked video.... but I can tell you it doesn't and isn't working in Sweden..... in fact many of said refugees have already either left or are planning to head elsewhere... you cannot easily mix northern European culture with middle eastern or African culture....
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pastafarian
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Its not a downside the Lily Allen types like to acknowledge with their lofty moral positions.
But there is a downside to helping those that have crossed the med and many countries before applying for asylum,you encourage more to do it, and more to drown.
you might as well have pushed their heads underwater and drowned them yourself.
im sure people like her give their hands a good wash before they go to bed.
we should be giving priority to the most vulnerable, they are in UN camps near the conflicts not walking across Europe.
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All that will happen is everyone will now head to Dunkirk, and that will become the new Calais. French authorities should have secured their borders years ago, but because of Schengen and every country being effectively borderless people have crossed unrestricted for years now. Migration is not going away and wherever people end up, it will just end up creating more cultural and religious tensions. We are seeing it now, look at Sweden, Germany, France, Italy and that is just the start. Until these governments wake up, nothing is going to change. Yes we have the land mass to take everyone outside the EU, but we simply don't have the resources, or the money to deal with it.
Some might find the Australian way awful, but they know it is never going to work having an open border.
Some might find the Australian way awful, but they know it is never going to work having an open border.
spring hall convert
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I'd just like people that say we should 'look after our own' to show some commitment to that, outside of using it as a stick to bash brown people with. That's all.
I wouldn't argue against "unfettered movement of peoples" being unsustainable, it's a pretty self-evident, obvious statement. It's not really the same debate though. I'm fed of of people saying it's EITHER/ OR, it's not.
And out of interest 'look after our own' seems a very vague, ever shifting concept. Talking specifics, what does it actually mean?
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spring hall convert
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"You can't talk about immigration any more."
Except it's on the front cover of half the printed press every.........single...........day.
Insel affe
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Fires have broken out across the 'Jungle' in Calais as the police operation to clear out the camp entered its third day.
A plume of black smoke billowed over the camp as firefighters battled the flames in shelters, tents and small shops.
Dozens of large blazes were ripping through what had been until recently the homes of thousands of migrants and refugees at the sprawling French camp.
The sound of exploding gas canisters could be heard as firefighters tried to tackle the flames.
Riot police move in as fire spreads through the Jungle
Four migrants have been arrested in connection with starting the blazes, said Calais police commissioner Patrick Visser-Bourdon, who is in charge of the dismantling operation.
Earlier, regional prefect Fabienne Buccio said migrants "have a tradition" of burning their shelters before leaving.
How nice, can't wait for them to reach British shores.... Not
A plume of black smoke billowed over the camp as firefighters battled the flames in shelters, tents and small shops.
Dozens of large blazes were ripping through what had been until recently the homes of thousands of migrants and refugees at the sprawling French camp.
The sound of exploding gas canisters could be heard as firefighters tried to tackle the flames.
Riot police move in as fire spreads through the Jungle
Four migrants have been arrested in connection with starting the blazes, said Calais police commissioner Patrick Visser-Bourdon, who is in charge of the dismantling operation.
Earlier, regional prefect Fabienne Buccio said migrants "have a tradition" of burning their shelters before leaving.
How nice, can't wait for them to reach British shores.... Not
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Nice of the Jungle to burn itself down. If any of the inhabitants make it as far as Croydon, they'll feel right at home.
rocker959
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The Russian's could have obliterated the camp as they passed by the other day with a few salvos of target practice . Missed opportunity. Stated in jest .
neilbard
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The figures are disproportionate compared to other nations.
http://data.mongabay.com/igapo/world_statistics_by_area.htm
Disproportionate in terms of what?
neilbard
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Land mass and population density
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Think about this way, the US has a population of about 330 million
The UK has a population of about 70 million. You can fit the UK in to the US about 30 times, I think if anything that shows how over populated we are.
Yes we have lots of land but do we want more green built on. Quality of life.
This country has done more than enough over the years. We only get told about now, and not about the hundreds of thousands of people who have illegally entered this country over the last 15-20 years. It's why I can no longer listen to anyone from the Labour Party when they keep telling us that we need to do more. They lost complete control of our borders, and if it wasn't for them making a complete cock up of things, public opinion about immigration might be a whole lot different today.
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Green Cross Code Man
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Absolutely right. Labour fuelled the demands for a referendum. It's funny to see socialists venting about Cameron calling the referendum but failing to see that one of the main dissatisfactions that led to it was Labour's misguided policy of open door immigration in the vain hope it would translate to more left wing votes.
What about economic factors? And infrastructure? Kazakhstan is massive and practically empty but I don't think they'd be able to cope with a million refugees.
Canada is huge and wealthy but I don't think we can drop a bunch of refugees on the Arctic tundra,
What percentage of refugees should we take?
The US should undoubtedly do more in terms of refugees.
I think we're getting our wires crossed here though. Neil Bard and I were talking about refugees, not immigration as a whole.
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And the leave campaign successfully exploited peoples concerns about migration even though the architect of the campaign is pro-free movement.
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I wasn't talking about immigration as a whole, I was talking about the numbers of Asylum Seekers, Economic Migrants who are now the new Refugees that are already in our country.
Don't know where I read it, but they reckon we have around 300,000 - 400,000 living in this country illegally. Says to me we have already done our part.
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Discounting asylum seekers and economic migrants, what are we left with?
The ones who come for the weather?