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Jul 20, 2003
20,698
I'd like to have had Mark Francois or Andrew Bridgen on the panel.
 


portlock seagull

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2003
17,780
And to think It’s only going to get worse before it gets better. In other news...Climate Change!
 












clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,878
Bizarre reaction to the Welsh MP.

Wants another referendum, expected booos from 50% of course.

Then suggests that a second one should be BINDING and not ADVISORY and receives even bigger boos.

Bonkers

:lolol:
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,326
Living In a Box
Bizarre reaction to the Welsh MP.

Wants another referendum, expected booos from 50% of course.

Then suggests that a second one should be BINDING and not ADVISORY and receives even bigger boos.

Bonkers

:lolol:

All the reasons why Blair was wrong with this regional government rubbish
 


The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Bizarre reaction from Gina and Fiona to not linger on the premise that the referendum was binding (camerons leaflet) Out of the CU, SM, ECJ et all. All this vicky pollard claptrap, yeah but no but is so bloody devious.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,878
The facts are a referendum was won and the losers will not accept it. Obfuscation at it's finest.

Unfortunately the winners won't accept it either. It really is quite simple.

Theresa May did something really really stupid. The result of the referendum was tight, but the Government had a majority. She went for an election and imported the close referendum result into Parliament.

It's then complete open season in a representative democracy where 1) The opposition oppose (clue is in the name) 2) The right wing of the Tory party and the DUP start flexing their muscles.

The reality is this. If it wasn't for that election we would now be out with Northern Ireland declared a special region if the border technology isn't in place.

You can blame the opposition / remainers all you like, but you sound like someone who has lost 5-0 blaming the referee.

Tactically the Conservative have ****ed this up and continue to **** it up. They are now completely desperate and relying on base populism.
 
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The Rivet

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2011
4,592
Unfortunately the winners won't accept it either. It really is quite simple.

Theresa May did something really really stupid. The result of the referendum was tight, but the Government had a majority. She went for an election and imported the close referendum result into Parliament.

It's then complete open season in a representative democracy where 1) The opposition oppose (clue is in the name) 2) The right wing of the Tory party and the DUP start flexing their muscles.

The reality is this. If it wasn't for that election we would now be out with Northern Ireland declared a special region if the border technology isn't in place.

You can blame the opposition / remainers all you like, but you sound like someone who has lost 5-0 blaming the referee.

Tactically the Conservative have ****ed this up and continue to **** it up. They are now completely desperate.


Oooh I just knew you would have to respond.............:wink:
 




The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,208
West is BEST
Unfortunately the winners won't accept it either. It really is quite simple.

Theresa May did something really really stupid. The result of the referendum was tight, but the Government had a majority. She went for an election and imported the close referendum result into Parliament.

It's then complete open season in a representative democracy where 1) The opposition oppose (clue is in the name) 2) The right wing of the Tory party and the DUP start flexing their muscles.

The reality is this. If it wasn't for that election we would now be out with Northern Ireland declared a special region if the border technology isn't in place.

You can blame the opposition / remainers all you like, but you sound like someone who has lost 5-0 blaming the referee.

Tactically the Conservative have ****ed this up and continue to **** it up. They are now completely desperate and relying on base populism.

Really mate, don't bother with this twerp. He's a troll.
 










drew

Drew
NSC Patron
Oct 3, 2006
23,631
Burgess Hill
Bizarre reaction from Gina and Fiona to not linger on the premise that the referendum was binding (camerons leaflet) Out of the CU, SM, ECJ et all. All this vicky pollard claptrap, yeah but no but is so bloody devious.

The referendum was not legally binding, that is a fact. Irrelevant what politicians claim was going to happen, doesn't change the fact it was legally an advisory referendum. If it had been a binding referendum then the overspending by the leave campaign, as found by the High Court, would have meant the Electoral Commission would have declared the result null and void.
 






rigton70

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
977
The referendum was not legally binding, that is a fact. Irrelevant what politicians claim was going to happen, doesn't change the fact it was legally an advisory referendum. If it had been a binding referendum then the overspending by the leave campaign, as found by the High Court, would have meant the Electoral Commission would have declared the result null and void.

I was under the impression the remain campaign spent more.
 


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