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Question about supporting Fans United ?
- Thread starter Ernest
- Start date
Doc Lynam
I hate the Daily Mail
- Jun 19, 2011
- 7,347
Ernest go for a walk, get some free air, just move on from this head space its doing you no favours.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Dear oh dear, all the self-righteous football fans have fallen hook line and sink for this.
The Large One
Who's Next?
When you get it wrong, Peter - you really get it wrong. So 'oh dear' yourself.
Your unctuous loyalty is commendable though.
Dave the OAP
Well-known member
Their average gates were 17,000 just one season before the move was finally confirmed. That's about 5,000 more than Huddersfield Town right now.
If Huddersfield ever find themselves in the shit financially, it's good to know you won't be bothering us on NSC with your on-line begging bucket.
Come on
Their gates averaged 17'000 because all the premier teams took thousands and people used the excuse to see a premier side....
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Don't get me wrong, I think the move to Milton Keynes should never have happened but I think as they are back in the league it might be time for everyone to move on.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
So we can all put a time limit on these things?
I don't particularly want to get into a debate about the history of AFC Wimbledon but they acted the big I ams all the way through the non-league structure then got the ground a few weeks before Kingstonian could form a supporters trust to try and buy it (although as you say they can still play there).
The move to Milton Keynes should never have happened and I am glad to see them back in the league, but football is a food chain of which they were quite happy to use in their favour when they were the big fish.
pork pie
New member
Bless. I'll buy you a Plymouth bobble hat, out of my winnings.
jabba the gut ecfc
New member
- Sep 1, 2011
- 8
Yup.
wimbledonguardianDOTcoDOTuk/news/4346237.Don_s_return_to_Wimbledon_gets_political_backing/
(Sorry, can't post full links yet).
The Large One
Who's Next?
To go with his Rochdale scarf?
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,877
If you look at the stats - the 17,000 is actually the home attendance.
Bit of a myth I'm afraid to suggest the Wimbledon "failed" because no-one went to see them.
Far more complicated story than that. Remember the fans pissed to set up and watch their new team.
As for the question, I'd be more than happy for that fake team in Milton Keynes to go out of business.
Their league place was stolen. If Milton Keynes was such an untapped hot bed of football support - the current owner would have done well to start from the bottom and invest in a local non league side. Taken them eventually into the football league.
Sounds impossible doesn't it....
Lord Bracknell
On fire
If MK Dons look like going bust, they at least have another option that isn't available to any other Club. They can sell themselves to some self-promoting businessman who might just move them somewhere else. Gloucester could probably use a football club with league status. As for the fans ... who cares? Not the owners of MK Dons, obviously.
jabba the gut ecfc
New member
- Sep 1, 2011
- 8
As regards the Gargoyles' apathy, I can kind of understand that. I believe confusion over the arcane twists and turns of the story, the convoluted, mysterious and nebulous links of the main players/shysters and the unpalatable choices available to them are partly to blame.
The Riddler is an absolute genius of the Jedi Mind Trick - his forked tongue and the rather more buffoonish mendacity of his cronies has effectively divided the fanbase and left some of them chasing their own tails in a desperate wish for survival at any cost. I've actually seen posts on PASOTI defending Heaney and suggesting they give Kassam a fair hearing as a fallback buyer because at least he has money to complete the deal!
Their desperation to avoid liquidation and reformation, no matter what the future holds if they are saved and continue as PAFC, is likely to be part of the problem. I suspect that the Riddler et al have deliberately used this to their advantage. If there was a unified view of what they wanted to achieve as a club, they would have something to fight for. Most seem to have set their face against reformation and starting again as a Trust owned club, free from baggage and possibly with the ground safe from the property sharks - and none of the other options seem to be universally popular.
Although there seems to be some groundswell in favour of the Brent bid (and I wonder how much of that is based on logic rather than emotion) it seems to me that there is more of an air of fighting against something rather than all marching together for a particular cause.
I don't think that apathy means you should give up on them. As I say they've been tied up in knots by ruthless and greedy individuals - many fanbases might feel a bit worn out and bewildered in similar circumstances.
The Riddler is an absolute genius of the Jedi Mind Trick - his forked tongue and the rather more buffoonish mendacity of his cronies has effectively divided the fanbase and left some of them chasing their own tails in a desperate wish for survival at any cost. I've actually seen posts on PASOTI defending Heaney and suggesting they give Kassam a fair hearing as a fallback buyer because at least he has money to complete the deal!
Their desperation to avoid liquidation and reformation, no matter what the future holds if they are saved and continue as PAFC, is likely to be part of the problem. I suspect that the Riddler et al have deliberately used this to their advantage. If there was a unified view of what they wanted to achieve as a club, they would have something to fight for. Most seem to have set their face against reformation and starting again as a Trust owned club, free from baggage and possibly with the ground safe from the property sharks - and none of the other options seem to be universally popular.
Although there seems to be some groundswell in favour of the Brent bid (and I wonder how much of that is based on logic rather than emotion) it seems to me that there is more of an air of fighting against something rather than all marching together for a particular cause.
I don't think that apathy means you should give up on them. As I say they've been tied up in knots by ruthless and greedy individuals - many fanbases might feel a bit worn out and bewildered in similar circumstances.
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jabba the gut ecfc
New member
- Sep 1, 2011
- 8
In actual fact their last set of accounts were fairly alarming IIRC. There was something on their website at the time to the effect of needing to attract more fans and urging the existing fanbase to rustle up support. I seem to remember the attendance for the playoff SF last season was pretty unimpressive when considered in light of the massive potential Winkelman claimed for the club (sorry, can't be ar*ed to look up the exact figure).
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,122
Small point of order, the owner at Barnet is not the problem it is the obstructionist council. But anotherwise superbly eloquent post Severnside.
That was 2 years ago and politicians making popular suggestions a year before an election. What has happened since?