There are plans to put a roof over the whole of QATAR ready for this. There will be a 10 mile long bar selling Budweiser and it will all be air-conditioned. There will also be an area for stonings and floggings etc..
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Qatar 2022: The first ever DRY world cup?
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beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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"LGBT rights: Homosexuality is a sin in Islam. It remains to be seen whether the Qatar will relax in order to allow homosexuals to enter it."
did they? i didnt know that (nor does a brief search of how or where they did). and everyone thought their bid was a joke/publicity stunt until this afternoon. i'll take your word for it. im sure its straight forward and will work if its been done before. for 12 stadiums and few dozen training grounds. and the "bars" and outdoor screening areas.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Qatar's World Cup victory shows full extent of Fifa's greed Telegraph Blogs
How would you like a World Cup held in one city? How about if we make that city so hot it constitutes a health risk, say 50 degrees?
Right, what if we air-condition everything, heck have the whole competition indoors? Can we make sure it’s an uncomfortable place for women, gays and Jews too please? No, problem, Fifa have delivered. Welcome to Qatar 2022.
You have to admire the chutzpah – not a word to use at immigration – of Qatar for even bidding for the thing. That they have won it is depressing. In their technical assessment, Qatar was deemed the highest risk. Then the Executive Committee voted for it.
Russia hosting a World Cup in 2018 is a risk. There are huge issues the country needs to tackle, the most serious of which are social rather than those of infrastructure. Qatar, though, does not really have a coherent society to restructure. The country has one city, Doha, which I visited this time last year when England played Brazil in friendly. It is fine if you’ve got money, a high boredom threshold and live in one of the steel and glass skyscrapers that rear out of the desert.
Less nice if you are one of the migrant workers from South Asia who live in grim conditions on the outskirts of town and are bussed in every day to build the things.
Of the 1.7 million people estimated to live in the country only 200,000 are native Qataris. The rest are expats and migrant workers. According to a UN refugee agency report from two years ago the Qatari government “does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so.”
Trying to get a beer after game? You need your passport to access one of the exclusive and extortionate hotel bars. You have to travel everywhere by taxi. Like all the Emirates, it is an ideal playground for those who like spending money and privacy. Oh and the football team? Qatar didn’t get out of the group stages at the Gulf Cup.
There is no doubt Qatar will come through on the money, there is no doubt that they have had some impressive people pushing their cause. Bringing football to the Middle East is brave, of course, and there is no doubting the generous hospitality of the region (for some guests).
But this is not a new frontier like South Africa was. This is a small wealthy country, many of whose citizens can afford to go and watch a World Cup wherever it is held. The only thing that seemed to be in its favour – aside of course from vast wealth – was that the TV rights will be more lucrative near a European time zone.
In reality, Fifa has long put money ahead of football. Qatar 2022 marks the moment they stopped pretending otherwise.
How would you like a World Cup held in one city? How about if we make that city so hot it constitutes a health risk, say 50 degrees?
Right, what if we air-condition everything, heck have the whole competition indoors? Can we make sure it’s an uncomfortable place for women, gays and Jews too please? No, problem, Fifa have delivered. Welcome to Qatar 2022.
You have to admire the chutzpah – not a word to use at immigration – of Qatar for even bidding for the thing. That they have won it is depressing. In their technical assessment, Qatar was deemed the highest risk. Then the Executive Committee voted for it.
Russia hosting a World Cup in 2018 is a risk. There are huge issues the country needs to tackle, the most serious of which are social rather than those of infrastructure. Qatar, though, does not really have a coherent society to restructure. The country has one city, Doha, which I visited this time last year when England played Brazil in friendly. It is fine if you’ve got money, a high boredom threshold and live in one of the steel and glass skyscrapers that rear out of the desert.
Less nice if you are one of the migrant workers from South Asia who live in grim conditions on the outskirts of town and are bussed in every day to build the things.
Of the 1.7 million people estimated to live in the country only 200,000 are native Qataris. The rest are expats and migrant workers. According to a UN refugee agency report from two years ago the Qatari government “does not fully comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so.”
Trying to get a beer after game? You need your passport to access one of the exclusive and extortionate hotel bars. You have to travel everywhere by taxi. Like all the Emirates, it is an ideal playground for those who like spending money and privacy. Oh and the football team? Qatar didn’t get out of the group stages at the Gulf Cup.
There is no doubt Qatar will come through on the money, there is no doubt that they have had some impressive people pushing their cause. Bringing football to the Middle East is brave, of course, and there is no doubting the generous hospitality of the region (for some guests).
But this is not a new frontier like South Africa was. This is a small wealthy country, many of whose citizens can afford to go and watch a World Cup wherever it is held. The only thing that seemed to be in its favour – aside of course from vast wealth – was that the TV rights will be more lucrative near a European time zone.
In reality, Fifa has long put money ahead of football. Qatar 2022 marks the moment they stopped pretending otherwise.
I lived and worked in Qatar for 10 months in 2002. My comments for what they're worth:
1. Awful f***ing place. Boring, boring, boring.
2. Hotter than hades in summer. Don't care if they have some system for cooling the stadiums, when you're not inside the stadiums you'll fry!
3. There is nowhere else in Qatar except Doha so presumably all games/stadiums will be in the same city.
4. The whole Arab world is corrupt as hell, so there is no doubt at all that they won this through bribery.
5. Why would you let a nation that granted Qatari citizenship to Ethiopians so that they could compete as Qataris in the Olympics host any international event, let alone the World Cup?
6. The Qataris are not even "nice" Arabs. Bottom of that list are the Saudis, then the Kuwaitis, then the Qataris. Arrogant bastards. The nicest of the Arabs are the Omanis, followed by the Bahrainis and the Emeratis.
The award of the World Cup to Qatar is a big f***ing sick joke.
1. Awful f***ing place. Boring, boring, boring.
2. Hotter than hades in summer. Don't care if they have some system for cooling the stadiums, when you're not inside the stadiums you'll fry!
3. There is nowhere else in Qatar except Doha so presumably all games/stadiums will be in the same city.
4. The whole Arab world is corrupt as hell, so there is no doubt at all that they won this through bribery.
5. Why would you let a nation that granted Qatari citizenship to Ethiopians so that they could compete as Qataris in the Olympics host any international event, let alone the World Cup?
6. The Qataris are not even "nice" Arabs. Bottom of that list are the Saudis, then the Kuwaitis, then the Qataris. Arrogant bastards. The nicest of the Arabs are the Omanis, followed by the Bahrainis and the Emeratis.
The award of the World Cup to Qatar is a big f***ing sick joke.
i worked out there and was getting friendly with a bird from qatar airways.....she said not to kiss her on the cheek (as a greeting) in public as it would cause her problems.
drinking is rife out there....dont worry about that.
too hot to move tho, and very expensive.
"geeet your face out for the lads." will be a top song out there
drinking is rife out there....dont worry about that.
too hot to move tho, and very expensive.
"geeet your face out for the lads." will be a top song out there
after working there too i agree with all of this. The place is a desert except for Doha which is just a massive building site.
the arabs there are sooo arrogant it is untrue........egoistic tossers, all about show, who is important, and all that jazz. doing business with them was hell.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
Aren't they just Quats ?
Qatari`s actually.
Quats are 2 pint containers used in my younger days for transporting cider and brown ale to the local park to drink.
on another point I take it the migrant workers who are going to build the stadiums will be looked after as well as they usually are ?
Quats are 2 pint containers used in my younger days for transporting cider and brown ale to the local park to drink.
on another point I take it the migrant workers who are going to build the stadiums will be looked after as well as they usually are ?
I thought they were QUARTS?
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
Isn't this what you get if an Arab space mission goes wrong upon re-entry ?
With these joke venues I can see the European Championships becoming the primary competition for European countries and I don't think I would care if we boycotted the world cup.
Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
Perhaps we should have a thread of things that are great about World Cups that you are unlikely to see in Qatar...I will start you off with:
Abundant campsites where people from all nations mingle happily together, playing random games of five or more a side on a handy patch of grass, where the result doesn't matter...then socialise whilst watching games on a big screen with a BBQ and a few cold tinnies.
This wont happen because I can't think of anywhere you would be less likely to pitch a tent, it isn't so much sandy desert as dusty rocks...there isn't much grass at all, except beside the roads near the sea...alcohol consumption will be strictly controlled (the Arab World is not the place to be drunk)...women will not get away with strolling around in anything less than clothing whereby their arms and legs are covered...as far as being fan friendly this one won't be at all.
If anyone ever had a nagging suspicion that FIFA was run by a lousy bunch of twats the voting today has finally confirmed it beyond all doubt, the dream pairing was England and Australia...you gave us the worst combination humanely possible.
In fact the more I think about it the worse it seems, I have a nagging suspicion that the goons who run FIFA lumped the voting for two World Cups together so they could collect a double bung before waltzing off into retirement, safe in the knowledge that they have stiffed the fans good and proper...most of them will be dead (from old age, before anyone starts to suggest otherwise) before we get round to voting for 2026...which seems a hell of a long way off!
Abundant campsites where people from all nations mingle happily together, playing random games of five or more a side on a handy patch of grass, where the result doesn't matter...then socialise whilst watching games on a big screen with a BBQ and a few cold tinnies.
This wont happen because I can't think of anywhere you would be less likely to pitch a tent, it isn't so much sandy desert as dusty rocks...there isn't much grass at all, except beside the roads near the sea...alcohol consumption will be strictly controlled (the Arab World is not the place to be drunk)...women will not get away with strolling around in anything less than clothing whereby their arms and legs are covered...as far as being fan friendly this one won't be at all.
If anyone ever had a nagging suspicion that FIFA was run by a lousy bunch of twats the voting today has finally confirmed it beyond all doubt, the dream pairing was England and Australia...you gave us the worst combination humanely possible.
In fact the more I think about it the worse it seems, I have a nagging suspicion that the goons who run FIFA lumped the voting for two World Cups together so they could collect a double bung before waltzing off into retirement, safe in the knowledge that they have stiffed the fans good and proper...most of them will be dead (from old age, before anyone starts to suggest otherwise) before we get round to voting for 2026...which seems a hell of a long way off!
smudge
Up the Albion!
This says all you need to know.
The stadiums are going to be solar-powered and claim to be carbon-neutral. Arup, the construction company behind the projects say that the training grounds are going to be air-conditioned as well. There's a nice paradox that an oil-rich country will rely on another energy source for powering the stadiums.
Apparently, they're going to be dismantled and given to other, poorer, countries. They're going to be built as a sort of flat-pack to make it easier to transport and construct. Great opportunity for Ikea then
TBH, I think the infrastructure is the less problematic part of the deal. These will be modern stadiums and with a transport system getting around a small area, transport won't be a problem. The reason why it's a terrible idea is the lack of any football tradition and the lack of facilities for fans.
Another thing about Qatar. It is virtually a police state with no recourse to western style justice.
A couple of years ago a former British Airways executive who had been working for Qatar Airways in Doha was arrested when trying to leave the country after resigning his position. He was accused of attempting to transfer confidential company documents to his personal email account and kept in solitary confinement in jail for a number of weeks before being placed under house arrest and not permitted to leave the country. After 6 months charges were dropped and he was allowed to leave Qatar.
This guy lost six months of his life; lost the job he was returning to the UK to take up (the job offer was withdrawn); was financially ruined; and received not so much as an apology from Qatar Airways or the Qatari authorities. The British authorities were unable to do anything to assist him even though his plight received prominent mention in the Daily Mail.
Is this the kind of country that is fit to host the World Cup? I think not.
A couple of years ago a former British Airways executive who had been working for Qatar Airways in Doha was arrested when trying to leave the country after resigning his position. He was accused of attempting to transfer confidential company documents to his personal email account and kept in solitary confinement in jail for a number of weeks before being placed under house arrest and not permitted to leave the country. After 6 months charges were dropped and he was allowed to leave Qatar.
This guy lost six months of his life; lost the job he was returning to the UK to take up (the job offer was withdrawn); was financially ruined; and received not so much as an apology from Qatar Airways or the Qatari authorities. The British authorities were unable to do anything to assist him even though his plight received prominent mention in the Daily Mail.
Is this the kind of country that is fit to host the World Cup? I think not.
Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
Oh yeah, and isn't it the country that was exposed for buying 7-year old Pakistani boys to use as jockeys for camel racing?
kevo
Well-known member
- Mar 8, 2008
- 9,809
Not to mention the fact that women are treated as second class citizens (to put it mildly), homosexuality is illegal, and the country in general has an appalling human rights record. The decision is indefensible and what makes it even more shocking is Qatar beat Australia 14-1 in the voting. Australia would have hosted a great World Cup. How can they possibly have lost by that many votes? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I wish the English, Australian and US football associations would have the balls to all withdraw from FIFA. I'm sure if they did other FAs (including all the home nations) would follow suit.
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