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[Albion] Putting the offside flag up so late
- Thread starter Giraffe
- Start date
It's shit isn't it.
I understand the reasoning completely, and for VAR to be used to its most beneficial effect, then they have to do it like this - but it does throw up some horrible anomalies.
Quite often you see a team allowed to play on when 'almost certainly' offside, and then win a corner that they ought not have had.
Last night White got injured blocking a Werner shot, after the striker had been slipped in, possibly offside. On this occasion it was very tight so they'd be right not to flag, but its still an example of what can happen when an offside play is allowed to continue 'just in case'.
Quite often you see a team allowed to play on when 'almost certainly' offside, and then win a corner that they ought not have had.
Last night White got injured blocking a Werner shot, after the striker had been slipped in, possibly offside. On this occasion it was very tight so they'd be right not to flag, but its still an example of what can happen when an offside play is allowed to continue 'just in case'.
albionalbino
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I understand why it's been introduced but it feels like VAR technology could replace Lino's as the call gets made post-play now.
The Large One
Who's Next?
In your example, it's giving the benefit of the doubt to the strikers - something we've mostly wanted to happen previously. The irritation is when VAR brings it all back...
In the example I suspect the OP is referring to, it took yonks for the flag to go up. Basically, he had to wait for the player to touch the ball. Yeah, bloody annoying.
Agree with the OP, blatent offside should be flagged immediately for the reasons HKFC states. You could actually see teams scoring from set pieces that shouldn't have been or goals being reviewed across multiple phases or offside reviews for corner decisions if it's taken to its logical extreme, all of which are a bit shit.
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
- 6,690
That's ridiculous, presumably also red cards and penalties could happen too, even though play should have been stopped?
Actually no - in the instance of a penalty, a goal, or a potential red card -then they go back and check the build up on the VAR, and if there was an offside, the subsequent outcomes would be chalked off (except violent conduct).
But if it leads to a corner or free kick - those would stand (even if there had been an earlier offside) as it would not be checked.
I have always thought that the whole offside rule is shit.
I would scrap it. - It serves no purpose. It slows the game down and causes more stopages to the game than is needed.
- Feb 22, 2014
- 2,832
I think that is going too far. Often thought offside should only be given in the penalty box but that would make it a different game. Not sure we are ready for that.
studio150
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Already been trialed in the Watney Cup
- Feb 22, 2014
- 2,832
Never knew that. Any idea how it went? Presumably not well if it was not tried further.
banjo
GOSBTS
It’s the new normal.
Sooner or later someone’s gonna get clattered/badly injured as play continues after a blatant offside is allowed to “play on”, especially if the player tries to avoid being offside with an outrageous dummy. I know I’d clatter him anyway!
Come on, make the linos do something and feel useful
That'd divide the grass roots crowd. At Primary School I played "goal hanger" so certainly would agree with you. In my older years I was a pub centre back and I'd much rather have stepped up two yards to win a free kick than chased after a pacy youngster who already had a two yard headstart, especially with a hangover!
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
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Lino became redundant with VAR. Now with the new rule there’s absolutely no logical reason to keep them. They actually now increase the chance of mistakes. Naturally, despite everyone else knowing this, the authorities will take another 15 years before making the change.
studio150
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They trialed this and the penalty shoot out, so on the basis that the penalty shoot out is still with us, the offside change didn't achieve too much.
From what I recall from almost 50 years ago, players like George Best just used to stay upfield just outside the oppostion penalty area. So at least there was no continued offside flag when the keeper kicked the ball upfield, which used to happen a lot at the time.
I think the idea was to get more goals scored, but overall it didn't achieve that.
Personally I like midfield battles, dribbles, short passing etc so I'd keep it.