[Misc] Putin's Least Believable BS Yet?

[Bry Nylon]

Mr Skripal had lived quietly without incident in a sleepy Salisbury cul-de-sac for 8 years until 4th March when Novichok toxic agent was smeared on his door handle.

As these 2 Russian men with sequential passport numbers were captured on CCTV in the area at the exact time this happened, the very least they could do is come forward and say if they saw anything suspicious.

 

[Hugo Rune]

The question that interests me is if they brought the novichok with them - which would have been disastrous if they had been caught - or picked it up when here ( smuggled into the embassy ? ). I reckon the security services know.

I think it is believed that they brought it in two (relatively harmless) parts and mixed it in the perfume bottle just before they used it; it obviously then became a lethal chemical weapon.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

For any Simpsons fans

 

[cirC]

 

[clippedgull]

I see one of the Russian 'tourists' has been identified!



An investigative journalism website has published what it says is the real identity of one of the Russian intelligence officers suspected of the Salisbury nerve agent poisoning.

The Bellingcat group claims the man who was named as Ruslan Boshirov is actually Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga.

British officials have not commented. The BBC understands there is no dispute over the identification.

UK investigators have said Mr Boshirov was a Russian intelligence officer.

Bellingcat says that Col Chepiga was a soldier who served in Chechnya and was awarded the highest state award - Hero of the Russian Federation, usually bestowed personally by President Vladimir Putin.

BBC

 

[vegster]

I see one of the Russian 'tourists' has been identified!

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An investigative journalism website has published what it says is the real identity of one of the Russian intelligence officers suspected of the Salisbury nerve agent poisoning.

The Bellingcat group claims the man who was named as Ruslan Boshirov is actually Colonel Anatoliy Chepiga.

British officials have not commented. The BBC understands there is no dispute over the identification.

UK investigators have said Mr Boshirov was a Russian intelligence officer.

Bellingcat says that Col Chepiga was a soldier who served in Chechnya and was awarded the highest state award - Hero of the Russian Federation, usually bestowed personally by President Vladimir Putin.

BBC

Nah, surely not ? Just an amateur Steeple enthusiast who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and has been stitched up.

 

[Lankyseagull]

Apologies if this has already been covered, but what I would like to know is, if the Novichok was applied to the front door of Mr Skripal's house, how on earth was it done without the perpetrator(s) coming into contact with it either by inhalation or contact assuming it was sprayed from a perfume bottle?

 

[TimWatt]

Apologies if this has already been covered, but what I would like to know is, if the Novichok was applied to the front door of Mr Skripal's house, how on earth was it done without the perpetrator(s) coming into contact with it either by inhalation or contact assuming it was sprayed from a perfume bottle?

Why would you like to know?

Two things seem likely to me: 1. I expect they would want to do it downwind and 2. how would we know they didn't have some contact? It was a cold day so gloves wouldn't have been conspicuous and would be obvious first line of protection and perhaps the spray would have been a narrow jet in preference to a wide one as for a proper perfume. Also, the PM said there was evidence of Novichok in the hotel so maybe the contamination there was related the that release from the bottle, via gloves or other clothing. We don't really know, or need to know... but that's no reason to cast doubt on the UK line at all.

 

[clapham_gull]

Apologies if this has already been covered, but what I would like to know is, if the Novichok was applied to the front door of Mr Skripal's house, how on earth was it done without the perpetrator(s) coming into contact with it either by inhalation or contact assuming it was sprayed from a perfume bottle?

The bottle was adapted, it's already been in the news

It was more like a WD40 can with a specially adapted nozzle

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[Lankyseagull]

Why would you like to know?

Two things seem likely to me: 1. I expect they would want to do it downwind and 2. how would we know they didn't have some contact? It was a cold day so gloves wouldn't have been conspicuous and would be obvious first line of protection and perhaps the spray would have been a narrow jet in preference to a wide one as for a proper perfume. Also, the PM said there was evidence of Novichok in the hotel so maybe the contamination there was related the that release from the bottle, via gloves or other clothing. We don't really know, or need to know... but that's no reason to cast doubt on the UK line at all.

Why not? It’s not an unreasonable question is it?!

Curious, that’s all.

A narrow spray could have splashed back onto gloves or clothing. Those gloves could still come into contact with skin later. They were obviously well trained & extremely careful not to be affected by the chemical that they were allegedly there to use.




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[Lankyseagull]

The bottle was adapted, it's already been in the news

It was more like a WD40 can with a specially adapted nozzle

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Sorry for missing this - with a demanding job & young family, I do not always catch up with the news. Thanks for the clarification.


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[clapham_gull]

Sorry for missing this - with a demanding job & young family, I do not always catch up with the news. Thanks for the clarification.


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Not quite as described but have you ever seen a perfume bottle like this:

 

[osgood]

Nah, surely not ? Just an amateur Steeple enthusiast who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and has been stitched up.

yes , some of those out there are getting Tourists mixed up with Terrorists !

 

[Chicken Run]

Nah, surely not ? Just an amateur Steeple enthusiast who was in the wrong place at the wrong time and has been stitched up.

You’re quite right, most steeple enthusiasts from Russia come for the day and return home that evening!! [emoji23]

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

FFS. Consecutive passport numbers. What are the chances of that ? [emoji38]ol:



https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1040478021977694208?s=19

TThis has outed a whole sequence of russian agent passport numbers and their cover and movements have been blown [emoji38]ol:

 

[Triggaaar]

You’re quite right, most steeple enthusiasts from Russia come for the day and return home that evening!! [emoji23]

and without actually visiting the site they came to see.