Pub debate about Cancer, so look away if sensitive...

[SJ's Love Monkey]

Both my parents died before i was 20 both smoked my mother had lung cancer and my father bowel cancer, i am not saying smoking 100% killed them but it didnt help lets put it that way

 

[Gritt23]

More people die of blood pressure, stroke and heart disease than ALL the cancers put together.

Oh quite true. The numbers on Heart Disease really are quite horrific.

The difference is just how self inflicted lung cancer seems to be. The chances of you getting it are so massively increased by smoking, and are significantly increased by passive smoking. It's the sheer numbers of people who do this and therefore willfully increase their chances of contracting this killer disease that gets it all the attention.

The same cannot be said about blood pressure, heart disease and strokes.

 

[Gritt23]

Both my parents died before i was 20 both smoked my mother had lung cancer and my father bowel cancer, i am not saying smoking 100% killed them but it didnt help lets put it that way

That's awful mate. My father only just quit in time. Having smoked 30 a day for about 40 years, he gave up in 1985, and has not had a single cigarette since, he hasn't even been able to bear going into rooms with any smoke it. He's developed a major aversion to it.

But a lot of damage was already done. He has a shadow on his lung and suffers badly from emphysema. It restricts what he can do, in fact he struggles to do much without struggling for breath.

Thank God he gave up when he did, I just wish he'd never started. It's certainly no coincidence that having grown up hearing him cough and splutter and struggle for breath, none of his 4 children have smoked.

 

[Yorkie]

That was one thing I was really grateful for , that neither of my kids took it up.

I seem to have got away very lightly.

 

[SJ's Love Monkey]

That's awful mate. My father only just quit in time. Having smoked 30 a day for about 40 years, he gave up in 1985, and has not had a single cigarette since, he hasn't even been able to bear going into rooms with any smoke it. He's developed a major aversion to it.

But a lot of damage was already done. He has a shadow on his lung and suffers badly from emphysema. It restricts what he can do, in fact he struggles to do much without struggling for breath.

Thank God he gave up when he did, I just wish he'd never started. It's certainly no coincidence that having grown up hearing him cough and splutter and struggle for breath, none of his 4 children have smoked.

I used to smoke but it was a promise to my dad the day he died that i wouldnt smoke again and i am thankful to say i havent touched one since

 

[Gritt23]

That was one thing I was really grateful for , that neither of my kids took it up.

I seem to have got away very lightly.

Speaking from personal experience it's all about how you brought them up Yorkie, how you talked to them about smoking and how you made them feel about themself.

My dad is the best dad in the World (ok a lot of us probably think that about our dads). Growing up in our house was superb because he loved us protected us, and talked to us as grown ups from a young age, particularly about smoking. We could see the damage it had done to him, he knew it, and didn't try to hide it. We could see it was crazy to smoke, and could see how much he wanted to be able to give up. So why would we ever want to start?

None of us grew up rebellious, or attention seeking, because we were getting all the love we needed, we didn't have to cause a stir by coming home smoking, and nor did we want to end up with health problems like dad.

Yorkie, you may not realise how or why, but I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of why your kids do not smoke is down to you.

 

[SJ's Love Monkey]

Speaking from personal experience it's all about how you brought them up Yorkie, how you talked to them about smoking and how you made them feel about themself.

My dad is the best dad in the World (ok a lot of us probably think that about our dads). Growing up in our house was superb because he loved us protected us, and talked to us as grown ups from a young age, particularly about smoking. We could see the damage it had done to him, he knew it, and didn't try to hide it. We could see it was crazy to smoke, and could see how much he wanted to be able to give up. So why would we ever want to start?

None of us grew up rebellious, or attention seeking, because we were getting all the love we needed, we didn't have to cause a stir by coming home smoking, and nor did we want to end up with health problems like dad.

Yorkie, you may not realise how or why, but I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of why your kids do not smoke is down to you.

 

[Goring Gull]

What i want to know is why do nearly all young women 18-25 seem to smoke? go down the pub and their all lighting up?

 

[tedebear]

My two pence worth...

I understand that people would like non smoking pubs, but I want society to be careful that they don't create a nanny state, whereby we can and can't do things just because some people don't like it....

We know the effects of smoking, we know mostly where smokers congregate, if you don't like it you don't have to go there?

As for the ladys situation above - dreadful thing to say but what would happen if the government decided by being a smoker you gave away any right to treatment if you got a smoking related cancer?