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00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
Cold reading us actually a very powerful psychic technique.

You can get it wrong up to 80% of the time and people will still believe as they only hear what they want to hear.

Fascinating really.

Still a total scam tho.
 




May 17, 2011
554
1066 country
I'm off to see Psychic Sally tonight with my mother-in-law.

She is a total believer in psychics, the paranormal and mediums.

I am a total sceptic.

How do the rest of you feel about psychics, mediums and their abilities?

Ask Sally if vicente will sign & who else will.? that's far more important than talking to dead people.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
People who claim to be mediums are often fake, but on the eve of the Euros, what wouldn't we give now for Paul the Octopus to tell us who's going to win the matches.
 




00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
Psychic Sally show was actually very entertaining, in a feeding Christians to the Lions sort of way.

Perfectly executed cold reading. Got a couple of people spot on.

Counted the times she was absolutely right, vs how many she was wrong.

Absolutely right, 4.

Kinda close, 20

Wrong, well over 100.

That's how it works tho.

As I say an impressive performer and as long as her conscience lets her sleep at night then fair play to her I say.
 




BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Absolutely right, 4. Kinda close, 20

You will have to tell us how she was absolutely correct ........ name, address, NI number, middle names, career and how about death date ( things required to get a death certificate at the town hall by a part time temp ) ..... No ?? or maybe some comparative bullshit about numbers, initials, personality trait and vague shit that you then accept as absolutely right ????
 


binky

Active member
Aug 9, 2005
632
Hove
there is a comma, re-read. it means the founder of DNA, AND newton, AND.....

i know of alchemy, and an alchemist 'knows' psychic abilities are real.

I'm sorry. Then you don't know what alchemy is.
I'm not going to quote dictionary definitions, but in a nutshell, an alchemist was a proto scientist groping towards the scientific method.
The early development of the periodic table came from the work that alchemists were doing.
Nothing to do with the paranormal.

work with a pendulum every day for a year, or even tarot, scrying, runes, etc, <snip>


NDE, ESP, remote viewing in the military, claryvoyance, and much more are all proved and declassified. <snip>

http://xkcd.com/808/
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
19,642
Hurst Green
A few years ago at the local village fate we had a psychic lady who spent all morning setting up her tent. I was three "bays" away running a beer tent. With about 10 mins to go before the grand opening a huge gust of wind blew her tent away , it ending up at the other end of the field, leaving her sitting at her table. I was helpless on the floor, she certainly hadn't predicted that.
 




T.G

Well-known member
Mar 30, 2011
639
Shoreham-by-Sea
Isaac Newton was not the founder of DNA, he knew nothing of molecular biology.Crick and Watson, who discovered DNA[/B][/B], we're both committed atheists. [/B]

Do you actually know what 'alchemy' means? It's nothing to do with psychic abilities.

Do you want to have another go? I mean no offence but you seem a bit lost without dodgy YouTube videos to refer to. Have you ever considered that your study time might be better spent learning about real things rather than pseudoscience claptrap?


Not sure that's entirely true either. Didn't they take the credit for some women that died......could always ask an......informed historian
 


00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
Absolutely right, 4. Kinda close, 20

You will have to tell us how she was absolutely correct ........ name, address, NI number, middle names, career and how about death date ( things required to get a death certificate at the town hall by a part time temp ) ..... No ?? or maybe some comparative bullshit about numbers, initials, personality trait and vague shit that you then accept as absolutely right ????

What a cynic you are. Lol.

She guessed the name of a young girls dead baby spot on, and also that she had another dead daughter. Was horrific to see this girl break down thinking the spirits of her dead children were on stage with Sally.

She also dialled in well to some bodies dead husband and guessed than he had leg and arm injuries when he died.

Perhaps only spot on once now I think about it.

Even I was fooled!!!!!
 


Bad Ash

Unregistered User
Jul 18, 2003
1,905
Housewares
00snook, did you get to the show early? If so, did you notice any 'research' taking place?

I follow Derren Brown on Twitter and he's linked to a few articles that have exposed Sally. In one a reporter visted her show and people were asked to write messages to their deceased loved ones. So he wrote a number of notes about a fake person, and quelle surprise, Sally had a message from this fictional person...
 




00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
00snook, did you get to the show early? If so, did you notice any 'research' taking place?

I follow Derren Brown on Twitter and he's linked to a few articles that have exposed Sally. In one a reporter visted her show and people were asked to write messages to their deceased loved ones. So he wrote a number of notes about a fake person, and quelle surprise, Sally had a message from this fictional person...

Wasn't there that early so didn't see any research as such.

People are asked to bring in photos or write notes from loved ones. She then dips in and hey presto, gets contact from that spirit straight away.

She even got contacted by one blokes dog!

In my mind there is no doubt that she is a fake. Followed the classic cold reading methods that Derren Brown, amongst others, have exposed countless times.

To be fair to her, the showmanship was second to none, which is why so many people believe in her. Theatre was packed out at £25 a ticket too.
 


Manx Shearwater

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Jun 28, 2011
1,206
Brighton
Read a book many years ago which debunked loads of stuff - hypnotic regression, mediums, all sorts. I can't remember the name of the person who wrote it (too lazy to Google), possibly Ian Wilson or similar sounding, but he basically also wrote books damning Doris Stokes and everything she did.

Apparently the first six or so rows of Doris Stokes performances were filled with people who had actually been invited. So she'd do a few bits of cold reading on people further back and mixed it in with incredibly accurate readings of people that had been invited by her researchers, and presumably had their lives researched by a fair amount - dead relatives names, cause of death, the lot.

I think they're cruel and evil, personally.
 






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