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DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
Personally I'll believe a psychic when they actually prove what they can do under controlled conditions (and claim their Nobel Prize in the process) rather than just take a fortune off of people willing to pay to watch a stage show.
 




Manx Shearwater

New member
Jun 28, 2011
1,206
Brighton
I'm getting an 'R', anyone in here lost a loved one with a connection to the letter 'R'?

I've got an idea love, why don't you just ask him to give you his full name instead of paying riddles with letters??
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Brunswick - I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mean one of the co-discoverers of DNA believed in an afterlife. Which atheist was it then? Crick or Watson? And have you got any proof of this?

As for alchemy - it's changing one physical item from one state to another and it has been proven to be claptrap. In fact, the whole chemistry on which DNA is based on would fall apart if you were able to convert lead into gold. It's nothing to do with supposed spiritual abilities and the only link is that people who believe in one pseudoscience tend to believe in all pseudosciences.

ESP and clairvoyance being proven...I think there are legions of scientists, magicians and suchlike ready to prove that you Yyare 100% wrong there. James Randi has made it a lifetime's work to find a single case of esp, clairvoyance or any other paranormal activity that can be demonstrated under reliable test conditions. If you have proof, I suggest you contact him. He offers a huge reward.
 
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DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
I'm getting an 'R', anyone in here lost a loved one with a connection to the letter 'R'?

I've got an idea love, why don't you just ask him to give you his full name instead of paying riddles with letters??

OBVIOUSLY this is because ghosts like to play games and tease the psychics. It has NOTHING to do with cold reading, which others have comprehensively proved they can match without claiming any special powers.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
My mother believed implicitly in psychics and visited many and this has rubbed off on me. If after visiting one you feel better and think that they have told you something you want to hear what is the problem ok you may be £25 worse off but if you couldn't afford it you wouldn't visit one.
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Had a conversation with a hairdresser who had been to a psychic evening with her mum. She reckoned that there were over 300 people there, mostly middle aged women, all paying £20 a head. Her cynicism was confimed when the so called psychic woman stated that she could sense a presense of an old lady called Margaret, and asked 'was there anyone in the room who had known a Margaret who had died?', and f*** me there was! Trouble is that most of the women attending these sessions are so desperate that they want to believe it's all true, and this will make them ignore any wrong information that the psychic gives.
 


Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
34,028
East Wales
I'd say 'needy people', rather than idiots. They're meeting a need, aren't they, like religion.

I'm not defending them at all - I just think many people's need to believe shouldn't be put down to stupidity.
Just about sums it up for me too.

Its not real, but it does give believers some comfort.
 
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TWOCHOICEStom

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2007
10,917
Brighton
To me it's very simple. I'd love this to be true. Imagine if after you've died you can carry on and talk to the living, that's a nice thought..
There's just one thing I'd need to ask of any medium or psychic:

PROVE IT.
 








Racek

Wing man to TFSO top boy.
Jan 3, 2010
1,799
Edinburgh
I think that just about sums up the UTTER BULLSHIT that we all know it is.

Yep. This is not too bad in ways of effecting people, its when they say that they are connected to a lost love ones when its wrong. They dont even look embarrassed on that video.
 


Manx Shearwater

New member
Jun 28, 2011
1,206
Brighton
Acorah was caught with something similar I believe. The researchers suspected he was an idiot (wonder how long it took them to work it out?) and decided to leave research notes lying around with made up people on them. Sure enough, Acorah managed to get possessed by these made up people on the very next show.

Anyone done the ghost tour at Preston Manor? Ask the staff there about when Most Haunted visited, they'll put you straight!
 






Seaber

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2010
1,130
Wales
We can scientifically test for things we can't see. Just because some things don't have an explanation yet, doesn't mean you can use whatever theory you like to explain it.

Some things are less certain, but mediums are crooks and homoeopaths offer nothing more than expensive placebos.
 


catfish

North Stand Brighton Boy
Dec 17, 2010
7,677
Worthing
There are a lot of gullible people who want to believe in a load of old cobblers so it's not really surprising that some people will exploit this for financial gain.
 


00snook

Active member
Aug 20, 2007
2,357
Southsea
I'm not sure about the argument that just because it comforts some people then it is OK even if it is fake.

I read a great book on cold reading, so then tried it out on a mate who believes.

Told her I has psychic powers after hitting my head. Gave her a reading and nailed it. Ended up contacting her dead great aunt (who she had never mentioned before)

Afterwards I told her it was fake and she didn't believe me. Still doesn't to this day. She wants to believe so badly even when offered unequivocal evidence to the contrary she still believes. I even showed her the book I had read.

Goes a long way to explain how these "mediums" keep going.
 


SeagullSongs

And it's all gone quiet..
Oct 10, 2011
6,937
Southampton
I'm not sure about the argument that just because it comforts some people then it is OK even if it is fake.

I read a great book on cold reading, so then tried it out on a mate who believes.

Told her I has psychic powers after hitting my head. Gave her a reading and nailed it. Ended up contacting her dead great aunt (who she had never mentioned before)

Afterwards I told her it was fake and she didn't believe me. Still doesn't to this day. She wants to believe so badly even when offered unequivocal evidence to the contrary she still believes. I even showed her the book I had read.

Goes a long way to explain how these "mediums" keep going.

Which book? ???
 






Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,517
Worthing
I have a John here with me. Does anyone know a John who has died in the last 20 years.

Anyone could be an average if they wanted.

Edit : sorry I meant medium.
 


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