[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[dwayne]

Universally hated yet won 3 elections at a canter

No decent competition.

Please list all the amazing things he's done for London ?!?

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Yet, despite being universally hated, was re-elected this year.

With 43% of a 40% turnout, so 17% of eligible voters put an X in his box.

 

[dwayne]

Fair enough.....

But what are all those amazing things he's done for London. And please try and answer this without googling

 

[Lenny Rider]

With 43% of a 40% turnout, so 17% of eligible voters put an X in his box.

Almost the same as KS getting 37% of a 62% turnout, it’s our electoral system, which apparently was once the envy of the rest of the world

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Unfortunately, the right leaning press will continue to gaslight the gullible, with misleading or cherry-picked statistics, and with deliberately confusing presentation of genuine statistics.

Look at this absolute shambles of a graph from today's Mail - actually showing a flat line in the murder rate, but presented to look like a huge year on year increase:

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If the Mail is arguing that murder has 'gone up' under Khan they should be prosecuted. Unbelievable. How stupid are they, or do they think their racist readers are?

Maybe that's what you get when you employ as a journalist the dim offspring friends of the owner, who left a minor public school with meagre qualifications and picked up a degree from the University of West London.

Incidentally James Cleverly has one of those from that very same place. In something like 'hotel management'. But his Wikipedia entry has been edited so the nature of the degree is no longer shown. Fancy that!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

With 43% of a 40% turnout, so 17% of eligible voters put an X in his box.

43% is pretty high

 

[A1X]

With 43% of a 40% turnout, so 17% of eligible voters put an X in his box.

This is such a nonsense “own”, regardless of when it’s used. If you don’t vote then you don’t count.

 

[London Pompous]

Almost the same as KS getting 37% of a 62% turnout, it’s our electoral system, which apparently was once the envy of the rest of the world

The voting system that the UK electorate voted to keep in a referendum?

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

This is such a nonsense “own”, regardless of when it’s used. If you don’t vote then you don’t count.

I couldnt give a flying f**k who the Mayor of London is as I keep clear of the place as much as I can. I was just stating a fact that whoever won, as in the vast majority of FPP elections in the UK, has won by default. An unfortunate fact of life due to apathetic, lazy people.

 

[Lenny Rider]

I couldnt give a flying f**k who the Mayor of London is as I keep clear of the place as much as I can. I was just stating a fact that whoever won, as in the vast majority of FPP elections in the UK, has won by default. An unfortunate fact of life due to apathetic, lazy people.

Do we go with the Australian answer and fine people for not voting?

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

I couldnt give a flying f**k who the Mayor of London is as I keep clear of the place as much as I can. I was just stating a fact that whoever won, as in the vast majority of FPP elections in the UK, has won by default. An unfortunate fact of life due to apathetic, lazy people.

To be fair, the problems with FPTP elections don't have much to do with apathetic, lazy people.

There might be a reasonable argument that the apathetic laziness is encouraged by the knowledge that the system basically makes voting a waste of time.

 

[Gwylan]

This is such a nonsense “own”, regardless of when it’s used. If you don’t vote then you don’t count.

The other factor here is that the non-voters are mainly young (who tend to be further left). So, if voting was compulsory, the chances are that Khan would have had a bigger majority.

 

[The Clamp]

I couldnt give a flying f**k who the Mayor of London is as I keep clear of the place as much as I can. I was just stating a fact that whoever won, as in the vast majority of FPP elections in the UK, has won by default. An unfortunate fact of life due to apathetic, lazy people.

Genuinely interested why you swerve London?

I’ll visit friends there but on the whole I avoid it. It’s all a bit of a hassle. I know I’m likely missing out on some cultural aspects but I’m not a fan of big cities.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

To be fair, the problems with FPTP elections don't have much to do with apathetic, lazy people.

There might be a reasonable argument that the apathetic laziness is encouraged by the knowledge that the system basically makes voting a waste of time.

I have never been overly convinced by the meaning of turn out figures. Whilst there are people who are lazy there must also be a decent number who do not vote as it's still a waste of time in some seats.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Do we go with the Australian answer and fine people for not voting?

The problem is that a large minority of eligible voters are too thick to make up their own minds and just follow family voting traditions, what the bloke in the pub says or the tabloid headlines on voting day. A problem that will never be solved.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I couldnt give a flying f**k who the Mayor of London is as I keep clear of the place as much as I can. I was just stating a fact that whoever won, as in the vast majority of FPP elections in the UK, has won by default. An unfortunate fact of life due to apathetic, lazy people.

I got fed up of living there but now engage as a visitor, and love going back.

 

[Seaview Seagull]

I have never been overly convinced by the meaning of turn out figures. Whilst there are people who are lazy there must also be a decent number who do not vote as it's still a waste of time in some seats.

I think we just found out that it wasn't a waste of time in most seats. There seem to be very few 'safe seats ' now given the volatile electorate. By the way I 'm not defending FPTP , I voted to change it but if you voted to keep it or didn't vote at all then you can't really complain how it works.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Genuinely interested why you swerve London?

I’ll visit friends there but on the whole I avoid it. It’s all a bit of a hassle. I know I’m likely missing out on some cultural aspects but I’m not a fan of big cities.

It's purely a personal thing, not a refelction on what London has to offer to folk these days. Most of my working life has been based in and around London. I part owned a company that was based in Mitcham and was there for 17 years, can you imagine? I think I went into the town centre on a couple of occassions it was that grim. Most of the projects we undertook were based in the City or West End, but this was when you could drive in and park close to the sites. Now thats unfeasible and the tubes are not my ideal mode of travel. Now its just a hassle to get in and out. I was involved in the Battersea Power Station redevelopment, but to attend a meeting there took 10 mins drive to my local station, 60 mins train journey to Waterloo, 15 mins train journey to Queenstown Road, 15 mins walk to site, 20 mins in security offices., 10 mins escorted to site offices only to be told "we can't find a meeting room, can we rearrange" Now a Teams meeting is instantaneous. Don't get me wrong, there was a time when I enjoyed myself in the 90's being based in Pimlico and Mayfair. It used to be lunch at Dolphin Square, Naughty Lunches, Trader Vics and out for the evening at the Stork Club, Hirondelles, Directors Lodge, Burlesque Club, grabbing a taxi at 3am in the Strand, home at 4am and back in the office by 8am

 

[The Clamp]

It's purely a personal thing, not a refelction on what London has to offer to folk these days. Most of my working life has been based in and around London. I part owned a company that was based in Mitcham and was there for 17 years, can you imagine? I think I went into the town centre on a couple of occassions it was that grim. Most of the projects we undertook were based in the City or West End, but this was when you could drive in and park close to the sites. Now thats unfeasible and the tubes are not my ideal mode of travel. Now its just a hassle to get in and out. I was involved in the Battersea Power Station redevelopment, but to attend a meeting there took 10 mins drive to my local station, 60 mins train journey to Waterloo, 15 mins train journey to Queenstown Road, 15 mins walk to site, 20 mins in security offices., 10 mins escorted to site offices only to be told "we can't find a meeting room, can we rearrange" Now a Teams meeting is instantaneous. Don't get me wrong, there was a time when I enjoyed myself in the 90's being based in Pimlico and Mayfair. It used to be lunch at Dolphin Square, Naughty Lunches, Trader Vics and out for the evening at the Stork Club, Hirondelles, Directors Lodge, Burlesque Club, grabbing a taxi at 3am in the Strand, home at 4am and back in the office by 8am

Totally understandable. Sort of “had your fill” type thing?

 

[KZNSeagull]

To be fair, the problems with FPTP elections don't have much to do with apathetic, lazy people.

There might be a reasonable argument that the apathetic laziness is encouraged by the knowledge that the system basically makes voting a waste of time.

Surely not in a mayoral election though - aren't they simply who gets the most votes across all constituencies in the area? That being the case a 43% turnout is dreadful although I see that Tees Valley was just over 30% which is ridiculously bad.