[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[miffy6]

Absolutely, we both have our windows open, and as with most converted houses the soundproofing is poor / nonexistent.

He clearly doesn't realise the sound travels.

Someone will phone up ordering different types and amounts of tobacco which I think is safe to assume is drugs...

I had similar experiences with a Lithuanian chap who was living next door to me a few years ago. The most nonchalant drug dealer on the planet who would scream down
the phone outside his house without a care in the world. We'd have about 20 cars come and go throughout the night, he seemed to be running some sort of overnight drive-thru drug service. Eventually his son decided to set fire to a small tree in their garden and that was the last i saw of them.

I'd have sent the lad some flowers to thank him but he'd only go and burn them.

 

[rippleman]

Disappointed to see that from you @sydney. Our NHS and social care both run mainly on migrant labour, and our farmers rely on migrant labour for harvesting crops that can’t yet easily be automated.

Immigrant labour gives absolutely everything, and takes only a little in return.

My brother-in-law is currently in a rehab hospital in (bugger) Bognor where the staff are almost exclusively immigrants (from Africa, Phillipines and eastern Europe). They have been scared to leave their homes since the racists hit the streets. They are all afraid for their safety.

I only hope the events of last night gives them a bit of reassurance and they can sleep a bit more soundly now.

Yeah. Let's kick all the "immigrants" out. That'll sort out the NHS and care system.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Police say that 70% of them had criminal records.

That is not that big of a deal. Half of the people running for US President have a criminal record.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Absolutely it's good that the LP acted this quickly.

It's good that the courts acted quickly re the rioting too.

I hope you agree that they act as quickly re this (now ex) Labour Councillor?

Absolutely, a person in public service has to hold themselves to a high standard of behaviour.

 

[Bakero]

Albainians ....really..??.if thats the case i apologise , i am well aware that migrant labour is important and beneficial on a global scale , there are loads of English and Irish doctors in Aus , many of the Anglo Indian , i think NSC has an issue with interpretation , the comment i made was particular to Albanians , it was quite obvious.

You don't half chat some shite sometimes, Sydney. There are 10s of thousands of Albanians in the UK and, believe it or not, some aren't involved in the drugs trade or people trafficking. As far as know Dua Lipa, Rita Ora and Armando Broja haven't stolen a single car.

As for religion, Albania is about 60% Muslim, 40% Christian. However, in the UK there are more Christians plus a load of atheists alongside the Muslims.

Have you ever been to Albania? It's a beautiful country and surprisingly not everyone there is a criminal either.

 

[torchieboy]

My brother-in-law is currently in a rehab hospital in (bugger) Bognor where the staff are almost exclusively immigrants (from Africa, Phillipines and eastern Europe). They have been scared to leave their homes since the racists hit the streets. They are all afraid for their safety.

I only hope the events of last night gives them a bit of reassurance and they can sleep a bit more soundly now.

Yeah. Let's kick all the "immigrants" out. That'll sort out the NHS and care system.

I struggle to believe this as there hasn't been one protest in Bognor. Bognor has a wide range of people from many countries and there isn't any planned as far as the local press have released. No immigrants have been attacked or threatened as per the local news.

 

[Bakero]

I struggle to believe this as there hasn't been one protest in Bognor. Bognor has a wide range of people from many countries and there isn't any planned as far as the local press have released. No immigrants have been attacked or threatened as per the local news.

Any non-white immigrant would've been concerned following the events of the last week.

 

[birthofanorange]

Has he really got mate’s?

Probably still in the packet.

 

[torchieboy]

Any non-white immigrant would've been concerned following the events of the last week.

Concerned yes because of whats being reported. scared ?? Big difference

 

[jackalbion]

Concerned yes because of whats being reported. scared ?? Big difference

I know plenty who were scared, there was multiple videos of those of different ethnicity being attacked at Random.

 

[Eeyore]

the Albanians are running drug courier gangs all over west sussex ....12 to 16 yr old kids running gear around on top end mountain bikes but its all part of the cultural enrichment .

I'm not sure that my dental hygienist will be aware of her involvement in that. I saw her a couple of weeks ago and asked her where she was from. Just arrived from Albania and seemed almost apologetic. 'We're not all like they say we are'. 'Quite', I said. 'I judge people by character alone. Welcome to England and I hope you have a long and happy stay. My teeth, what's left of them these days, look great'

I left feeling very sad that she felt the need to apologise for just being Albanian.

 

[Bakero]

Concerned yes because of whats being reported. scared ?? Big difference

Wouldn't you he scared if you were their position?

 

[torchieboy]

I know plenty who were scared, there was multiple videos of those of different ethnicity being attacked at Random.

In Bognor ??

 

[torchieboy]

Wouldn't you he scared if you were their position?

In Bognor ? No.

 

[Springal]

In Bognor ? No.

My brothers girlfriend is BAME and has been concerned about her commute from Worthing to RSCH since this kicked off

 

[abc]

It is very odd that anti semitism is perceived by some as a greater problem for the left. Historically it's absolute bollocks and it's the left that have defended Jews (with a good number sent to the camps for doing so).
Trump and Johnson both escaped censure for indulging anti Semitic tropes because they supported Israel. It's a very dangerous tactic shutting down criticism by making Israel and Judaism synonymous and using anti semitism to attack the left. Should the trumpian right prevail they'll have absolutely no qualms about going after Jews if its convenient to them, and many will actually be pushing for it. Israel is embracing racists as it's supporters and trusting that their racism against arabs trumps their anti semitism.
Bugger wrong thread I suppose now I've written that. Still there is some truth in the labour party being anti Semitic because you're 200 times more likely to be suspended from the party for anti semitism if you're Jewish.

The reality is that extreme left and extreme right are in practice pretty much the same. Stalin was responsible for as many (far more actually) deaths than Hitler and both practiced extreme repression of religion, political opposition, etc. Hitler was of course obsessed by the desire to annihilate the Jewish race whereby Stalin post war had distinct anti semitic views and Jewish purges followed (though he also wiped out just about everyone else whom he felt offered him any threat).

As you suggest, the history of anti semitism shows that people of all political leanings and walks of life have held and hold anti semitic views. It feels as if the left in the UK have more so recently partly because of Corbyn et al and partly because of the Israel/Pallestine situation. I also suspect that much of the right's anti semitism (remember Jewish grave stones in the UK being sprayed with NF symbols?) is being 'hidden' due to their current obsession with immigrants and Muslims. I'm sure they will get back on to it soon

 

[rippleman]

I struggle to believe this as there hasn't been one protest in Bognor. Bognor has a wide range of people from many countries and there isn't any planned as far as the local press have released. No immigrants have been attacked or threatened as per the local news.

Ok. I just made it up obvs.

If you are an immigrant you don't have to personally be impacted by the racist thugs, you don't have to be attacked or have your property set ablaze to be affected by the pictures and reports of the racist morons marauding the streets.

I didn't say the right-wing had been out on the streets of Bognor did I? I said that immigrants living and working in Bognor had been scared by recent events.

But then I just made it all up for shits and giggles.

 

[torchieboy]

My brothers girlfriend is BAME and has been concerned about her commute from Worthing to RSCH since this kicked off

Thats awful but the post i replied to was about Bognor.

 

[jackalbion]

In Bognor ??

Not in Bognor, but in Brighton last night, as well as towns along the coast, Shoreham, Worthing. It was incredibly distressing for a lot of people.

 

[studio150]

Two brothers sentenced in Liverpool for looting in Liverpool during the riots, sentenced to 20 months and 8 months.

Their Mother outside the Court said they just got carried away and their behaviour was very out of character, and we've never had riots before.

OK, the Mother may be too young to remember the Toxteth and other riots of 1981, but the Court heard that one brother had 16 previous convictions for 28 offences including attempted robbery , robbery, thefts, assault and burglary and had served prison sentences.

Not sure how looting is out of character?