[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[Chicken Run]

It's not 'planned' until 8 o'clock. I came up Queen's road about 30 minutes ago and a big fat nothing.

I'm planning to be there at 7.30 tonight for the anti rally when I am expecting a similar big fat nothing. I'll keep you up to date

May you and Mrs WZ remain safe this evening, keep us all posted with your eye witness reports, btw have you had an early supper or do you have a reservation later?

 

[portlock seagull]

Interesting how contrite one rioter now convicted has been. An indication of how an otherwise everyday normal person has been influenced and whipped into a frenzy to the point of attacking a policeman.

The parallels with history in this respect are there to be made obviously, and how mobs can and have morphed into revolutions, coups and in many instances utter bloodbaths with hundreds, thousands and even millions sometimes being killed. Usually after long periods of establishment decadency too. Fortunately still no one has been killed here, so far at least / as far as I’m aware. Interesting times as they say.

 

[portlock seagull]

Is it illegal to buy/own a balaclava?
Proving who was wearing it would be tricky too.
Anyway, glad the Big Brother IS watching us.
Hopefully all crimes, including the likes of shoplifting and assault, will be investigated with equal vigour and resources.

For that to happen need to double your taxes, and there’s an outcry when it goes up by a penny. Nah, ain’t going to happen. Never has and never will. As for illegal to own a balaclava, I think you’ve overlooked the impracticalities, anlternatives and we also live in a democracy. Again, no chance.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Is it illegal to buy/own a balaclava?
Proving who was wearing it would be tricky too.
Anyway, glad the Big Brother IS watching us.
Hopefully all crimes, including the likes of shoplifting and assault, will be investigated with equal vigour and resources.

Strange reaction to more stupid, feral, violent rioters getting themselves nicked, thought like all law abiding sensible people, you'd be pleased

 

[Uter]

Is it illegal to buy/own a balaclava?
Proving who was wearing it would be tricky too.

I doubt it will be that hard to be honest, unless they changed clothes and shoes after purchasing said balaclavas.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Is it illegal to buy/own a balaclava?
Proving who was wearing it would be tricky too.
Anyway, glad the Big Brother IS watching us.
Hopefully all crimes, including the likes of shoplifting and assault, will be investigated with equal vigour and resources.

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[pb21]

I doubt it will be that hard to be honest, unless they changed clothes and shoes after purchasing said balaclavas.

Photos of balaclavad thugs with their tattoos on display

 

[Machiavelli]

I’m not sure I buy this argument. There has been an awful lot of discussion about immigration over the past decade, with government ministers leading the charge in demonising immigrants. This has created a helluva lot of space for anti-immigrant sentiment to be voiced without risk of being labelled a racist (at least not by the MSM).
I don’t pretend to know the minds of the scum who are “protesting”, but I think their “legitimate concerns” have been voiced loud and clear by the likes of Farage, Braverman, Anderson, Patel, etc etc for a decade or more.

Spot on. What there hasn't been is enough politicians articulating that we need immigration and, without it, x, y or z will follow. I actually posted what x, y and z constitute in a previous post; @chickens has been providing very detailed overviews of the key issues surrounding immigration on this thread -- not sure I've heard a politician making such an argument in a decade.

 

[birthofanorange]

I would be interested to know how you think there is a middle ground between these rioters and the rest of us.

Can you even explain to me what the rioters want (their 'country back' according to the banners) and how rioting will achieve this?

You have always struck me as a sensible poster so I'd be interested in your explanation.

I was going to ask you this yesterday when you made a similar comment.

There is none whatsoever. You either condone it or condemn it - unreservedly.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Deliciously, the police in Rotherham went to the closest shop that sold balaclavas, and clocked the culprits on CCTV.

These are really epic levels of moronic buffoonery

 

[Napper]

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Far right ! lol

 

[portlock seagull]

Spot on. What there hasn't been is enough politicians articulating that we need immigration and, without it, x, y or z will follow. I actually posted what x, y and z constitute in a previous post; @chickens has been providing very detailed overviews of the key issues surrounding immigration on this thread -- not sure I've heard a politician making such an argument in a decade.

We absolutely don’t need immigrants on the scale that’s going to happen because of climate change. No one does. It will end in tears everywhere. Millions of people arriving in other countries end up in refugee camps and so forth and never move on, live in squalor and are desperately poor. No change there then. Been happening since forever. Eventually something must give and it’s usually unpleasant.

No idea what the solution is. No one does. Or surely someone would have implemented by now? Instead, it’s just a combination of bury your head, hope for the best and there but for the grace of god. I wouldn’t begrudge any of the millions moving from Africa and Asia to Europe or S.America to North we’ve seen and will rise in increasing unprecedented numbers. We’d all do the same in their circumstances. I think most people forget this. We’ve just been luckier by accident of birth.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

If it helps, Full Fact was update at 5pm on protests/riots. Nobody has been stabbed, confirmed by police.

UK riots fact checked: latest updates and key questions answered - Full Fact

Our new regularly-updated explainer tracks the latest developments, fact checks claims circulating online and looks at the government’s response.

fullfact.org

 

[A1X]

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Maybe they had “legitimate concerns” about the soap?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Deliciously, the police in Rotherham went to the closest shop that sold balaclavas, and clocked the culprits on CCTV.

Superb.

 

[Machiavelli]

Is it illegal to buy/own a balaclava?

No, no it isn't.

Proving who was wearing it would be tricky too.

Only if you're an utter simpleton.

Anyway, glad the Big Brother IS watching us.

If you're really that bothered about the levels of surveillance in this country, perhaps you can share the multiple other posts where you've expressed such outrage.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Update: just asked my mate who works in Brighton, he says he saw a rozzer eating a sandwich outside M&S Food at the station. No word on the filling.

Truncheon mean?

 

[birthofanorange]

Can anyone offer any current (genuine) info on the state of play in town, tonight?
I only ask as my o/h travels by bus from Hove to her place of work (near the Royal Sussex), at around 7.30pm, for a night shift. .
If anything is likely to kick-off, I'd like her to stay home, or possibly take a cab ( the long way around).

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I doubt much will happen other than an extended pride celebration in town but suppose we could be a target for trouble because of how inclusive we are down here..

 

[Weststander]

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Older footage. I recognise the brain dead St George’s Cross top bloke from a mugshot published a few days ago.