[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

From the Office of National statistics in 2018 (most recent I could find with definitive data). Size of UK households by ethnicity:

Including the 3 categories of 5, 6 and 7 or more. So the blow figures represent percentages by each ethnicity with 5 or more in the household.

White 11.66%
Mixed/multiple 20.96%
Indian 21.96%
Pakistani/Bangladeshi 60.82%
Chinese 15.41%
Black 30.90%
Other 32.78%

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/families/adhocs/12896estimatednumberofpeopleinhouseholdsbyhouseholdssizeandethnicityengland2018/householdsbysizeandethnicityforpublication.xlsx

Not very helpful though because @sydney is talking about number of children and the data you quote specifically says "A household is defined as one person living alone, or a group of people (not necessarily related) living at the same address who share cooking facilities and share a living room or sitting room or dining area".

There was a time when people use to look back on the era where granny and grandad and cousins and aunties and uncles all lived under the same roof.

 

[BadFish]

seems to be a washed up old junkee!

Nah he is a good egg, just a little.... Unhinged,

 

[rogersix]

Nah he is a good egg, just a little.... Unhinged,

fair does, shall we go with, "incoherent"?

 

[Chicken Run]

1,000 Met Police officers suspended or on restricted duties

The crackdown follows a string of scandals, but a senior officer warns it'll take years to root out corruption.

www.bbc.co.uk

Thank you

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Not very helpful though because @sydney is talking about number of children and the data you quote specifically says "A household is defined as one person living alone, or a group of people (not necessarily related) living at the same address who share cooking facilities and share a living room or sitting room or dining area".

There was a time when people use to look back on the era where granny and grandad and cousins and aunties and uncles all lived under the same roof.

There’s another point. You rarely find Asian families putting their grannies in care homes because they feel it is their duty to look after them. So three generation households are common.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I‘ve lived in Asian areas in the north as neighbours and my experience is different.
Now I live in Sussex knowing several families with five or six children and they’re all white Sussex born.

Whose experience is more valid, yours or mine?

The ONS doesn't collect data for ethnic fertility. I found this paper which does suggest a higher birthrate for South Asians in the UK and suggests some possible valid reasons.

https://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol35/49/35-49.pdf

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

ahhh that old chestnut ....touche old boy, touche and you would have to be carling boy not Guinness.

He could drink stout still, the Irish simply copied an English drink!

 

[WATFORD zero]

Not very helpful though because @sydney is talking about number of children and the data you quote specifically says "A household is defined as one person living alone, or a group of people (not necessarily related) living at the same address who share cooking facilities and share a living room or sitting room or dining area".

There was a time when people use to look back on the era where granny and grandad and cousins and aunties and uncles all lived under the same roof.

But shows how important a link to the source is when quoting other sources. It helps stop misinterpretation

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Not very helpful though because @sydney is talking about number of children and the data you quote specifically says "A household is defined as one person living alone, or a group of people (not necessarily related) living at the same address who share cooking facilities and share a living room or sitting room or dining area".

There was a time when people use to look back on the era where granny and grandad and cousins and aunties and uncles all lived under the same roof.

Yes and as I said before, the ONS states that it doesn't collect ethnic data for fertility.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This thread has taken a nuanced turn....

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

This thread has taken a nuanced turn....

NSC in a nutshell.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This thread has taken a nuanced turn....

Tackling lies one at a time. I keep seeing lies posted where I’m told whites are becoming a minority in Britain, which feeds fears, which feeds anger.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Yeah, but you can prove anything if you use facts

Don't worry too much, from previous experience, I suspect that @sydney will have peaked and either be incapable of typing or will pass out in the next few minutes

People are debating different points of view then along you come and play the man and not the ball. Again.

Final warning then a lengthy ban.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Tackling lies one at a time. I keep seeing lies posted where I’m told whites are becoming a minority in Britain, which feeds fears, which feeds anger.

Back on track.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Not very helpful though because @sydney is talking about number of children and the data you quote specifically says "A household is defined as one person living alone, or a group of people (not necessarily related) living at the same address who share cooking facilities and share a living room or sitting room or dining area".

There was a time when people use to look back on the era where granny and grandad and cousins and aunties and uncles all lived under the same roof.

Superb take down of a right winger’s misleading statistics (or lies as some would say) to reveal the actual truth.

It put’s me in mind of a well respected European country where family is so important.

Italy.

Where it is common place for white, christian households to number over 6. Why? Because the grandparents live with the parents and children, often with a few uncle and aunts thrown in! Nothing to do with having too many children. In Italy currently, not having enough children is a massive issue.

 

[marlowe]

1,000 Met Police officers suspended or on restricted duties

The crackdown follows a string of scandals, but a senior officer warns it'll take years to root out corruption.

www.bbc.co.uk

Playing Devil's advocate, but I'm not sure that all 1000 have been suspended for violence against women and domestic abuse. I think that's the total number of Met officers suspended.

The article states:
"275 are awaiting a gross misconduct hearing, a significant proportion of which involved alleged violence against women and girls, compared to 136 last year".

This suggests that the number suspended for those types of offences are just below 275 which is still an appalling statistic.

The article also states:
"Some 450 are also being investigated for historic allegations of sexual or domestic violence, the force said"

So presumably those 450 are not currently suspended.

And then the article gives a very concerning statistic which presumably includes those 450 officers:
"Following Carrick's conviction, reviews were conducted of some 1,600 cases in which officers faced allegations of domestic or sexual violence but no action was taken from the last 10 years".
Investigations into 450 of those cases are ongoing".

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

what a cringeworthy response , if you count parents of friends visiting from sussex and elsewhere , expat visitors to England and Ireland returning to Australia and friends and relatives who use social media as friends i should change then you obviously are beyond help ,if you think gangs of tooled up Africans going at it in a seaside town in Britain is ok...?? FMD ...!! all the best with the rest of you existence.

Hit near the mark did it? It’s your average white knuckle dragger whom I’m more concerned about.

as for social media …people read what they want to read and its clear what you want to read.

 

[KZNSeagull]

As we appear to like facts this morning, the global birth rate is currently 2.3 per woman, down from over 5 in the early 1960s. Factors influencing this include the reduction in childhood mortality, where mothers do not feel the need to compensate for lost children, the increase in women's autonomy, and improved contraception access and efficacy.

Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics...he average woman,the course of their lifetime.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

It looks like arrests have hit >300 mark. In the past sentences for this type of thing used to be fines, suspended or curfew but with >30 coppers injured, a number of these dickheads are going to see custodial sentence. The authorities are going biblical on this.
Truly the bottom of the gene pool …

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Playing Devil's advocate, but I'm not sure that all 1000 have been suspended for violence against women and domestic abuse. I think that's the total number of Met officers suspended.

The article states:
"275 are awaiting a gross misconduct hearing, a significant proportion of which involved alleged violence against women and girls, compared to 136 last year".

This suggests that the number suspended for those types of offences are just below 275 which is still an appalling statistic.

The article also states:
"Some 450 are also being investigated for historic allegations of sexual or domestic violence, the force said"

So presumably those 450 are not currently suspended.

And then the article gives a very concerning statistic which presumably includes those 450 officers:
"Following Carrick's conviction, reviews were conducted of some 1,600 cases in which officers faced allegations of domestic or sexual violence but no action was taken from the last 10 years".
Investigations into 450 of those cases are ongoing".

The report also says those on restricted duties are under investigation.