[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

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Good on them, as far as I'm concerned (if true). Zero tolerance for racist thugs running rampant, and there's a hell of lot more of decent folk than these idiots.
Kick them to the kerb...immediately.

Dickhead

 

[chickens]

For anyone interested, non-EU immigration in 2023 was around 1.2 million (net migration around half that as nearly 700,000 people left the UK)

Approximate visa ratios as follows:

Work: 423,000 (42%)
Study: 379,000 (37%)
Family: 75,000 (7%)
Asylum: 81,000 (8%)
Humanitarian: 50,000 (5%)
Other: 21,000 (1%)

So, for those who believe immigration is far too high:

1. Why? The figures (to me) feel about right for a country of our population and wealth with an aging population. At least if we’re still chasing GDP growth as the measure by which we judge success.

2. Which visas should we cap? Bear in mind each has a cost. E.g. businesses that can’t get staff relocate elsewhere in Europe, and universities that can’t get foreign students to pay higher tuition costs require greater state or student subsidy.

 

[Berty23]

weapons , easy to find if looking - media wont report though

shouting allah akbar , thats in stoke , plenty more of both sides out looking for it.

Well let’s bang them up too. Just because morons are trashing your town and attacking people they see as the same as you does not justify this. The people behind mobilising the right wing riots will be running their hands with people fighting back. That fuels the fire.

As I said. This is grim.

 

[BevBHA]

Good on them, as far as I'm concerned (if true). Zero tolerance for racist thugs running rampant, and there's a hell of lot more of decent folk than these idiots.
Kick them to the kerb...immediately.

Utterly shocking! Machetes, knives and bats ‘good on them’ you say. Wow

 

[Napper]

Well let’s bang them up too. Just because morons are trashing your town and attacking people they see as the same as you does not justify this. The people behind mobilising the right wing riots will be running their hands with people fighting back. That fuels the fire.

As I said. This is grim.

Its grim and the lack of riot police opposing those openly carrying weapons can only be used on social media to fuel.

The news only saying far right - only enflames.

This is a shit show

 

[BevBHA]

Is this true? Is there evidence. Actual evidence not lots of people telling lies like they did about stabbings today?

Not hard to search ‘Stoke’ in the search bar. Multiple videos from all sorts of people of a large group carrying machetes and bats

 

[Guinness Boy]

People who have lethal weapons readily to hand are decent people? You've gone fully mask off here

Yup.

The decent people aren’t on the streets at all. They’re quietly tidying up afterwards.

 

[Napper]

There is other videos with machetes etc if @WATFORDO wants to look.

I'm just reporting , like say its a shit show both sides , hope its reported as that

Not sure how this ends other than Police somehow getting on top and temporarily stopping. Alot are on the streets due to media reporting and none of this helps.

 

[BevBHA]

People who have lethal weapons readily to hand are decent people? You've gone fully mask off here

I’m utterly shocked by @birthofanorange post and would encourage it to be reviewed by mods. Mindless comment. Inciting and advocating violence with deadly weapons.

 

[Weststander]

Anyone see the lone black guy getting a kicking, I think in Manchester, by racist oafs?

The main culprit should be easy to trace down the line. GBH with intent, with the racist aggravating factor. Looking at lengthy time inside.

 

[BevBHA]

You must be absolutely lapping X up at the moment.

I’m in the exact same camp it seems as @Napper . I do not represent or advocate either group at all! And I’m not arguing the case in favour of the British protesters or the counter protests.

I’m arguing the case of having equality of reporting in the media, equality in the way that it is policed on both sides during and after the event, and I’m providing balance to a thread that is heavily in favour of one side

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

weapons , easy to find if looking - media wont report though

shouting allah akbar , thats in stoke , plenty more of both sides out looking for it.

How do you know this 1) Stoke and 2) today?

The account that has posted it has posted one video

 

[Napper]

How do you know this 1) Stoke and 2) today?

The account that has posted it has posted one video

theres is thousands of things going around that make both sides look bad.

If you stray from sky news and BBC its all there to see

If covid taught us anything , its to use non mainstream media for balanced info

anyway I'm done for the eve , suspect my posting will get twisted into me being on extreme side which couldnt be further from truth

 

[Bold Seagull]

I’m in the exact same camp it seems as @Napper . I do not represent or advocate either group at all! And I’m not arguing the case in favour of the British protesters or the counter protests.

I’m arguing the case of having equality of reporting in the media, equality in the way that it is policed on both sides during and after the event, and I’m providing balance to a thread that is heavily in favour of one side

Heavily in favour of the side against extremist violence.

Youre insistence that the MSM reporting isn’t fair, policing isn’t fair is all its own narrative you’ve chosen to follow.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Not hard to search ‘Stoke’ in the search bar. Multiple videos from all sorts of people of a large group carrying machetes and bats

I wouldn’t say these accounts accounts are independent of each other

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

I’m in the exact same camp it seems as @Napper . I do not represent or advocate either group at all! And I’m not arguing the case in favour of the British protesters or the counter protests.

I’m arguing the case of having equality of reporting in the media, equality in the way that it is policed on both sides during and after the event, and I’m providing balance to a thread that is heavily in favour of one side

To be clear, and there's no way I can express how strongly I feel about this, the people you describe as "British protesters" do not represent me, do not represent the British people, and do not represent any sort of coherent view that anybody with a functioning brain could get behind.

 

[pocketseagull]

If covid taught us anything , its to use non mainstream media for balanced info

Funny really, I'm sure an argument could be made for the exact opposite of this given all the covid misinformation that was absolutely rife on social media.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

theres is thousands of things going around that make both sides look bad.

If you stray from sky news and BBC its all there to see

If covid taught us anything , its to use non mainstream media for balanced info

theres is thousands of things going around that make both sides look bad.

If you stray from sky news and BBC its all there to see

If covid taught us anything , its to use non mainstream media for balanced info

anyway I'm done for the eve , suspect my posting will get twisted into me being on extreme side which couldnt be further from truth

Im challenging the authenticity of this, Twitter posts are notoriously difficult to qualify, could well be true but I’ll reserve judgment

 

[Eeyore]

weapons , easy to find if looking - media wont report though

shouting allah akbar , thats in stoke , plenty more of both sides out looking for it.

Allahu Akbar is chant that is used in praise and thanksgiving. A bit like a Christian saying 'Jesus is Lord'

If these folk are out looking for trouble and in possession of knives then they should be treated in the same way and probably will be. I would be surprised if the media doesn't pick it up.

 

[BevBHA]

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I wouldn’t say these accounts accounts are independent of each other

It helps if you click on ‘videos’