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[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places



Algernon

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Sep 9, 2012
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Newmarket.
Silly sausage.
With those eyes I've a feeling he will be very popular in prison.
And he won't even have to worry about sorting his Barnet out. State of that.
He's almost A.I. in appearance.
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
He was thrown out the Labour Party pretty much immediately, and has now been charged with encouraging violent disorder -- see:


Which is another example exposing the lie that is 'Two Tier Kier'
Absolutely this.

Will Dianne Abbott step forward to condemn Starmer for being authoritarian now? I'd be surprised.

Will Farage criticize him for a one-size-fits all approach to, er, the same shit from different ends of the political spectrum?

Will he accuse him of a typical stupid even-handed approach to oaves? Yet again talking this great country down with his dithery decisiveness and his biased fairness?
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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'...and a whiff of Lush bath-bomb about him'
He has a budding monobrow, though.

And pubes instead of a barnet.

Weird.
 








BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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yes i'm an immigrant , i have paid my way , not signed on in 35 yrs in Oz , pay a shit load of tax every year so in reality i'm a benefit to the system , not a deficit.
So are most UK immigrants.

Asulym seekers and refugees would mostly do the same if they were given a chance.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
So are most UK immigrants.

Asulym seekers and refugees would mostly do the same if they were given a chance.
You wouldn’t believe the amount of Somalians I see living off the state on my maintenance rounds. They have no intention to work and told me so. Many come for operations and go back home as soon as the NHS have picked up the tab.

One landlord I work for all he wants is immigrant tenants on housing benefit he gets £300 guaranteed a week for a studio flat courtesy of the government, they are happy to live in very basic boxes no bigger than the average bedroom with a shower toilet and small cooking area crammed in.
How the government pay a £300 a week in housing benefit is beyond me, one house as nine of these studios £11k a month and we the tax payer are picking up the tab. There are thousands of similar houses all over London.

To add all the Ukrainian tenants I know all work hard and don’t claim benefits. Lovely polite clean people.
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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You wouldn’t believe the amount of Somalians I see living off the state on my maintenance rounds. They have no intention to work and told me so. Many come for operations and go back home as soon as the NHS have picked up the tab.

One landlord I work for all he wants is immigrant tenants on housing benefit he gets £300 guaranteed a week for a studio flat courtesy of the government, they are happy to live in very basic boxes no bigger than the average bedroom with a shower toilet and small cooking area crammed in.
How the government pay a £300 a week in housing benefit is beyond me, one house as nine of these studios £11k a month and we the tax payer are picking up the tab. There are thousands of similar houses all over London.

To add all the Ukrainian tenants I know all work hard and don’t claim benefits. Lovely polite clean people.
What is the immigration status of the Somalis?

I wonder what % of immigrants they make up. My understanding is that this story is not representative of immigration as a whole.

Taking you on your word though I would agree that there should be a set length of time that they are able to claim benefits got before being deported.

Usually when emigrating to another country you are asked to provide proof of your ability to support yourself so this doesn't happen.
 






Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
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You wouldn’t believe the amount of Somalians I see living off the state on my maintenance rounds. They have no intention to work and told me so. Many come for operations and go back home as soon as the NHS have picked up the tab.

One landlord I work for all he wants is immigrant tenants on housing benefit he gets £300 guaranteed a week for a studio flat courtesy of the government, they are happy to live in very basic boxes no bigger than the average bedroom with a shower toilet and small cooking area crammed in.
How the government pay a £300 a week in housing benefit is beyond me, one house as nine of these studios £11k a month and we the tax payer are picking up the tab. There are thousands of similar houses all over London.

To add all the Ukrainian tenants I know all work hard and don’t claim benefits. Lovely polite clean people.
I guess that's a fairly common anti-immigrant perspective ("brown" people horrible/dirty, "white" people nice/clean).

Anyway, just to maybe reassure you.....my son-in-law is an immigrant. He is (obviously) married to our daughter, and he's in the UK under a spouse's visa. He has to pay over £1,000 a year in order to be able to access the NHS. His job (he works for the Bank of England) provides private health insurance, so he's paying for that too as a benefit-in-kind. Plus, of course, he pays tax and NI in the UK, so he's paying his due anyway. There may be a (very, very small) minority of people who get treatment on the NHS that they shouldn't be getting for free, but there are others who are effectively paying multiple times.
 








Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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For some context, as immigration is cited as the reason behind the unrest, the population of the UK in 1997 was about 58 million, now in 2024 it stands at about 67 million.
Surely ‘for context’ regarding immigration against population you would need to give that population statistic with the overall net immigration figure? Otherwise there’s no context in relation to immigration.
 


Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
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Going back to those convictions, I've got no problem with people like this doing jail time but 3 years 2 months seems very extreme to me. I suppose he'll be out in 18 months for good behaviour though.

Inciting/encouraging people to set fire to a hotel containing hundreds of people sounds pretty serious to me. If you compare it to the recent 4 and 5 year sentences for Just Stop Oil activists (for planning a non-violent protest), it seems quite lenient.
 


HeaviestTed

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Mar 23, 2023
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I notice that Farage called him 'Two Tier Kier' and then immediately also said that the two tier policing started / went back to the BLM issues some years ago.

Quite clever of Starmer to have set up a two tier policing system whilst in opposition.
If there is a two tier police system it has been that us white males are ignored while people who are not white are stopped and searched in London. The met is institutionally racist, not towards white people!

How anything believes this is unbelievable.

 








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