[Politics] Protests/rioting in lots of places

[Kinky Gerbil]

Law and order …. my long term view, it remains, is a one track get tough on all crime.

Stop n search stepped up in London knifing boroughs across all colours/creeds, metal detectors, antisemite chanters arrested, as well as the full crackdown on fascists. Including on online hate speech.

Needs to be across all parts of criminality and seen to be so. Community sensitivites shouldn’t come into the arrest or manhandling of anyone suspected of breaking the law.

Time for the police to get tough, it might upset a few, but so be it. If all parties are upset they are doing something right lol

I feel sorry for the majority of the police, they want to do a good job, but can't.

Stop and search needs to be done a lot more.

 

[Bozza]

These utter knobbers really should be heading to their local hospitals for their protests/riots/arson attacks.

If my recent experiences in both Worthing and Crawley hospitals are representative of the country as a whole, then targeting a hospital will give allow them to get to as many immigrants as possible in a single hit.

Of course, that most wonderful of British institutions, the NHS, would be in utter collapse without this army of wonderful, compassionate and caring souls looking after us all, but that would surely be a small price to pay.

 

[A1X]

Celebrating Britain by smashing it up

 

[Weststander]

These utter knobbers really should be heading to their local hospitals for their protests/riots/arson attacks.

If my recent experiences in both Worthing and Crawley hospitals are representative of the country as a whole, then targeting a hospital will give allow them to get to as many immigrants as possible in a single hit.

Of course, that most wonderful of British institutions, the NHS, would be in utter collapse without this army of wonderful, compassionate and caring souls looking after us all, but that would surely be a small price to pay.

The same for us at the Royal Sussex, a united nations of angels.

 

[Triggaaar]

Interesting as i see most of MSM label anyone who goes on these protests for example the one at Downing Street as far right ..its a lazy term and totally inapplicable (excluding attacking mosques which is obviously wrong) imo.

Well the media always love to shove a label on something, whatever it is. I'm sure there are people in the marches who have no intention of causing trouble and who are not far right, but overall the media want a label, and far right seems appropriate on the whole.

 

[Triggaaar]

That’s a laughable comment re those who protested outside Downing Street …still not too worry Starmer is going to make us all feel safe again by locking them all up…well thats until he needs to release them as we havnt enough prison spaces…..never mind what really makes us feel unsafe …for example knife crimes

I think the person who committed this recent knife crime has also been locked up.

 

[Zeberdi]

Disgusting.

Really wouldn't be surprised if we see a real crackdown on hate speech content on social media. Certainly EDL / Football Lads Alliance need to join the list of proscribed Far Right groups.

Yeah.

Shame Elon Musk is the worst culprit for enabling far right extremists content on his platform - the man who invited Trump back into Twitter/X. The man who invited Andrew Tate back into Twitter, who donated to Trump’s campaign and thinks social media should be a no bars free speech “global market place” where people can express their unfettered views and who has Nigel Farage as one of his greatest advocates in spreading far right conspiracy theories:



The only people that complained about moderating content and restrictions on social media are right wing extremists bellyaching about ‘free speech’ because prior to Musk, they were banned from Twitter.

No one has a more punchable face but would urge people to watch this vid on Farage applauding Musk in April 2022 for buying Twitter and you’ll see how social media has been appropriated by those spearheading a movement of hard right/far right/racist/anti-immigrant twunts. This is all post-Jack Dorsey who came under repeated attacks by the Republicans accusing him of moderating with an anti-conservative bias on Twitter.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

I heard the PM say that the social media companies have to do more to stop people spreading lies online (very difficult if not impossible to do in real time) but surely the police need to find the people sharing the lies too and prosecute them. WayneGb88 and that knob on Tiktok with no teeth should be some of the first to have their collars felt.

There are literally thousands of people currently spreading misinformation over social media right now, impossible to stop

 

[maltaseagull]

Time for the police to get tough, it might upset a few, but so be it. If all parties are upset they are doing something right lol

I feel sorry for the majority of the police, they want to do a good job, but can't.

Stop and search needs to be done a lot more.

Agreed but they need to be clearly not racially biased.

 

[Triggaaar]

This is Hartlepool. Taunt the police, refuse to get back when told repeatedly, and then the crowd shout Police Brutality! (it's a dog)

I'm not on the side of the protestors, but I don't think it was right for the policeman to set his dog on him

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Yeah.

Shame Elon Musk is the worst culprit for enabling far right extremists content on his platform - the man who invited Trump back into Twitter/X. The man who invited Andrew Tate back into Twitter, who donated to Trump’s campaign and thinks social media should be a no bars free speech “global market place” where people can express their unfettered views and who has Nigel Farage as one of his greatest advocates in spreading far right conspiracy theories:


The only people that complained about moderating content and restrictions on social media are extremists bellyaching about ‘free speech’ because prior to Musk, they were banned from Twitter.

No one has a more punchable face but would urge people to watch this vid on Farage applauding Musk in April 2022 for buying Twitter and you’ll see how social media has been appropriated by those spearheading a movement of hard right/far right/racist/anti-immigrant twunts. This is all post-Jack Dorsey who came under repeated attacks by the Republicans for moderating with an anti-conservative bias on Twitter.

It seems everything at the moment is tit for tat and entrenched views the right have Twitter, but google "accidentally" muted auto responses from the Trump assassination attempt

These companies are lawless.

 

[Comrade Sam]

And why is that , people are getting pissed off liberal, left wing governments and councils , who don’t care about the average working class man in the street, this has been building up for a long time

Was that the left wing Tory government that shat on working class people for the last 14 years?

 

[Springal]

I'm not on the side of the protestors, but I don't think it was right for the policeman to set his dog on him

Why ? He was ignoring orders to get back - he had more than enough warnings.

Most of these oaths wanted people to ‘respect the police’ 2 weeks ago

 

[A1X]

I think the timeline is as follows:

1. Manchester Airport
2. Rioting in Leeds. Best be careful with policing.
3. Far right see a weakness
4. Southport
5. Chaos.

I'm not passing judgement, just trying to understand how we ended up here.

It’s also worth noting with the Leeds thing compared to,this is that was not an organised event, meaning the police were reacting to a situation which was literally brewing up in front of their eyes. By contrast, all these riots are being broadcast in advance on social media so the police are there ready when they arrive.

 

[birthofanorange]

I'm genuinely sick to death of all this. Truly.
It's time for normal folk (of which are the huge majority) to stand-up to these utter fuckwits.
Do we really want the knuckle-dragging cretins to run riot?
If not, DO something. I'm f***ing incensed that they walk amongst us, unchallenged.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Agreed but they need to be clearly not racially biased.

This is the tricky part

If a certain group are committing crimes, you should be able to target that group more?

I think we are at the point where hurt feelings are the least of our worries.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Was that the left wing Tory government that shat on working class people for the last 14 years?

Back early ..I thought you said two weeks

 

[Comrade Sam]

Let's be clear these so called protesters are targeting Muslims now, but their views on Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, non English Christians, Homosexuals, trade unionists etc aren't any more pleasant.

 

[Pevenseagull]

And why is that , people are getting pissed off liberal, left wing governments and councils , who don’t care about the average working class man in the street, this has been building up for a long time

So what would the average working class man want?


Free parking?
Less support for the vulnerable?
No dental care for kids?
Fewer libraries?
The free soup to return on the machine at Toolstation?




Edit, in fairness I miss the free soup.

 

[Triggaaar]

Why ? He was ignoring orders to get back - he had more than enough earnings.

The protestor was wrong to not get back when told, but two wrongs don't make a right. The problem with the policeman setting the dog on him is that the policeman was no longer in full control of the dog or the amount of damage it would cause. Suddenly the protestor was retreating, with the dog and policeman in pursuit.