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Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
:lolol:

Presumably a spoof post.

It's not just consumer items that need oil to operate - Everything from our food production, water supply, electricity and virtually every aspect of modern living needs oil to function somewhere along the line.

We can't just "boycott" oil, society can't function without it. Oil companies rule the world for this reason.

Presumably you've never tried to actually function without it. That's because you want to rage against them but you don't actually want to move from your comfort zone to reject such a society.

All mouth.
 


Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
The worlds richest companies by revenue

1. Exxon mobil $502.3 Billion Oil

2. Royal Dutch Shell $492 Billion Oil

3. Walmart $464 Billion

4. British Petroleum $410 Billion Oil

5. Vitol $320.2 Billion

6. Sinopec $290.5 Billion Oil

7. Chevron $270.1 Billion Oil

8. ConocoPhilips $248 Billion Oil

9. Toyota $250.1 Billion

10. Apple $198 Billion



Oil companies rule this world, corrupt world politics, cause and aggravate global conflicts, destroy the environment and rip off every single person on this planet.

Toyota 9th,that surprised me

and they still couldn't win a Grand Prix!
 








BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,199
They didn't create it. Human nature has.

This was occurring long before oil was discovered.

Before oil it was Spices. Before that, Silver & Gold.

Could you expland on this as I am not sure what you are getting at?
 




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I say good on them. Just going to jump in the car in a minute.
 




yxee

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2011
2,521
Manchester
There is nothing that is higher in demand in this world - this is why oil companies rule this world, have the power to corrupt world politics, cause and aggravate global conflicts to get even more oil, destroying the environment in the process, and ripping off every single person on this planet by creating an illusion of scarcity to maximise profits and get even more filthy, stinking rich.

It's not a "product" - Apple and Toyota make products. Oil companies just extract a finite natural resource that should by right belong to all of us...

They pay for the drilling rights, so it does go to all of us in theory. A government with vast natural reserves has the right to say no, but as it turns out, they apparently need the money as much as every one of us needs the petrol. The oil companies are not naturally evil. They just prosper in a world where humans are driven by greed. It's too easy to blame the most obvious villain.

And the stuff that comes out of the ground is far different to the stuff that goes into cars. There is no objective way of differentiating between whether an iPhone, a car or a litre of unleaded petrol are "products". I'd suggest it's a lot harder to locate, drill and transport millions of gallons of oil through intercontinental pipes than it is to pay children to assemble a bunch of ready-made components like Apple do.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Petrol companies have done a very good job of stalling the development of cars that use alternative methods of propulsion over the years. This is a great example of their manipulation of patents and government policy.

Indeed. In some cases they've actually brought patents from inventors of alternative technology and then buried the technology.
 








BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,199
No I am a Economics graduate :)

So in your opinion Oil companies have gained their money purely by successfully using the world economic system and have been involved in no shady or immoral dealings?
 


BHAZiggy

Pedant
Jan 12, 2011
520
Hastings
They pay for the drilling rights, so it does go to all of us in theory. A government with vast natural reserves has the right to say no, but as it turns out, they apparently need the money as much as every one of us needs the petrol. The oil companies are not naturally evil. They just prosper in a world where humans are driven by greed. It's too easy to blame the most obvious villain.

And the stuff that comes out of the ground is far different to the stuff that goes into cars. There is no objective way of differentiating between whether an iPhone, a car or a litre of unleaded petrol are "products". I'd suggest it's a lot harder to locate, drill and transport millions of gallons of oil through intercontinental pipes than it is to pay children to assemble a bunch of ready-made components like Apple do.
They pay who? I wasn't aware that Antarctica had a government.
 






Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
The worlds richest companies by revenue

1. Exxon mobil $502.3 Billion Oil

2. Royal Dutch Shell $492 Billion Oil

3. Walmart $464 Billion

4. British Petroleum $410 Billion Oil

5. Vitol $320.2 Billion

6. Sinopec $290.5 Billion Oil

7. Chevron $270.1 Billion Oil

8. ConocoPhilips $248 Billion Oil

9. Toyota $250.1 Billion

10. Apple $198 Billion



Oil companies rule this world, corrupt world politics, cause and aggravate global conflicts, destroy the environment and rip off every single person on this planet.

Probably your best ever post!
 








Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
And your solution to this problem is?

We need oil and as things stand the present arrangement appears to be the best there is. If you have a better (and practical) idea I suggest you start a campaign to have things changed.

Talk about obtuse, that's just what Greenpeace are doing.
 


goldstone

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 5, 2003
7,177
They pay for the drilling rights, so it does go to all of us in theory. A government with vast natural reserves has the right to say no, but as it turns out, they apparently need the money as much as every one of us needs the petrol. The oil companies are not naturally evil. They just prosper in a world where humans are driven by greed. It's too easy to blame the most obvious villain.

And the stuff that comes out of the ground is far different to the stuff that goes into cars. There is no objective way of differentiating between whether an iPhone, a car or a litre of unleaded petrol are "products". I'd suggest it's a lot harder to locate, drill and transport millions of gallons of oil through intercontinental pipes than it is to pay children to assemble a bunch of ready-made components like Apple do.

Good post. Oil companies are not completely evil as some would have us believe. And if your "hate" of oil companies is linked to the cost of petrol, just remember that in the UK we're paying 60% tax and duty on fuel. Without it petrol would be less than 60p, a figure that doesn't sound altogether unreasonable when you consider the cost of exploration, drilling, refining, transportation, etc., etc.
 


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