[News] Prostate Cancer

[brightn'ove]

More men now dying from prostate cancer (news today) than women from breast cancer. The funding available for sceening/diagnosis and research is HALF for prostate cancer compared to that for breast cancer.

Can you imagine the outrage if this was the other way around? But it doesn't matter because women in the BBC are you going to be paid more now.......

You realise that the funding is WHY breast cancer deaths have been reduced so much? All this will mean is that there will be more funding now channelled into prostate cancer.

What is the ****ing point about getting outraged about this?

**** me some of you people just look for excuses to get offended.

 

[Baldseagull]

More men now dying from prostate cancer (news today) than women from breast cancer. The funding available for sceening/diagnosis and research is HALF for prostate cancer compared to that for breast cancer.

Can you imagine the outrage if this was the other way around? But it doesn't matter because women in the BBC are you going to be paid more now.......

How often do you check your prostate for lumps?

 

[Triggaaar]

I seem to recall they used to say that as prostate cancer was quite slow developing that men would normally die of something else before that.

Normally. So the cancer was killing just under half the patients. Happy days.

 

[Triggaaar]

You realise that the funding is WHY breast cancer deaths have been reduced so much?

But why was it getting twice as much funding as prostate cancer?

 

[brightn'ove]

But why was it getting twice as much funding as prostate cancer?

because before more people were dying from breast cancer than prostate cancer?

because it kills people much younger than prostate cancer does?

The daily mails front page is a ****ing disgrace, this country is going down the ****ing pan.

The headline should be that this is a triumph in cancer research and treatment, it has succeeded in bringing down the levels of breast cancer.

NOW we can push on and try and defeat the cancer that is going to kill our aging population.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But why was it getting twice as much funding as prostate cancer?

Two breasts and one prostate gland, not forgetting the silent killer that women have which is ovarian cancer.



Survival rate for men is now 84%

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/hea...stics-by-cancer-type/prostate-cancer/survival

 

[Triggaaar]

because before more people were dying from breast cancer than prostate cancer?

So now that more people die from prostate cancer, it should receive twice the funding of breast cancer? Twice as much is a huge amount, were twice as many people dying from Breast cancer?

because it kills people much younger than prostate cancer does?

That's a fair reason for it to have good investment, but twice as much seems imbalanced.

The daily mails front page is a ****ing disgrace, this country is going down the ****ing pan.

The daily mail's headlines have always been crap, why is the country suddenly going down the pan. Try ignoring the mail, and just concentrate on the issue. Play the ball, not the man.

 

[Altered State]

as prostate cancer was quite slow developing that men would normally die of something else before that

Normally it is quite slow to develop and there is a debate around appropriate screening. In my case, I have a small 'suspect' area that is being monitored - first every six months, now annually unless anything changes. So, normally, yes, something else will get you first.

But ... normally. Much more aggressive development is less usual, but happens. Please don't think - anyone - that you can ignore symptoms (e.g. needing to pee urgently and often, and not because you shouldn't have had that last pint) because normally it isn't serious. Better to get treatment early if you do need treatment.

 

[Triggaaar]

Two breasts and one prostate gland

Is that a joke?

not forgetting the silent killer that women have which is ovarian cancer.

That's another topic, nothing to do with comparing breast cancer and prostate cancer.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Is that a joke?

That's another topic, nothing to do with comparing breast cancer and prostate cancer.

No, it isn't a joke. I know women who have had a mastectomy and lived quite happily without cancer, and I also know women who had one breast removed and then got it again in the other breast. I'm going to a funeral next Thursday where that happened to a friend.
Breast cancer isn't one type.
Ductal Carcinoma in situ. Ductal Carcinoma in situ. ...
Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. ...
Triple Negative Breast Cancer. Triple Negative Breast Cancer. ...
Inflammatory Breast Cancer. Inflammatory Breast Cancer. ...
Metastatic Breast Cancer. Metastatic Breast Cancer. ...
Breast Cancer during Pregnancy. ..

 

[jakarta]

This thread is a pain in the arse...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Two breasts and one prostate gland, not forgetting the silent killer that women have which is ovarian cancer.



Survival rate for men is now 84%

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/hea...stics-by-cancer-type/prostate-cancer/survival

According to the same website, survival rate for women with breast cancer is 78%

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/hea...tistics-by-cancer-type/breast-cancer/survival

 

[Triggaaar]

No, it isn't a joke.

What's the number of breasts got to do with it? Any cancer is obviously bad, but the news is that more people are dying from prostate cancer, so whether people have 1 or 10 prostates or breasts isn't relevant.

I know women who have had a mastectomy and lived quite happily without cancer, and I also know women who had one breast removed and then got it again in the other breast. I'm going to a funeral next Thursday where that happened to a friend.
Breast cancer isn't one type.
Ductal Carcinoma in situ. Ductal Carcinoma in situ. ...
Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. Invasive Ductal Carcinoma. ...
Triple Negative Breast Cancer. Triple Negative Breast Cancer. ...
Inflammatory Breast Cancer. Inflammatory Breast Cancer. ...
Metastatic Breast Cancer. Metastatic Breast Cancer. ...
Breast Cancer during Pregnancy. ..

Is prostate cancer one type? I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What's the number of breasts got to do with it? Any cancer is obviously bad, but the news is that more people are dying from prostate cancer, so whether people have 1 or 10 prostates or breasts isn't relevant.

Is prostate cancer one type? I'm not sure what your point is.

In post 32, according to Cancer Research UK, those figures are wrong?

I can't explain what I mean in appropriate words, but I know what I mean. The only one I can try to explain is breast cancer in pregnancy. The extra oestrogen feeds the cancer so making it more aggressive.

 

[Triggaaar]

In post 32, according to Cancer Research UK, those figures are wrong?

No, it's a different stat. If a higher percentage are surviving it, that doesn't mean less die overall, as more might get it in the first place. Regardless, if the total numbers are similar, it's worth looking at whether twice the expenditure on one than the other is the right way forward.

I can't explain what I mean in appropriate words

Not much for me to reply to then

Don't you think it's unusual that one type of cancer is getting twice the investment than the other, despite the fact that they cause a similar amount of deaths?

 

[sydney]

I seem to recall they used to say that as prostate cancer was quite slow developing that men would normally die of something else before that. Obviously people are living to an older age so I guess this is no longer the case

prostate cancer is usually encapsulated within the prostate gland and so does not metastasise at the same frequency as breast cancer ......once the affected prostate gland is removed the prognosis is usually pretty good with a remission rate of around 70% .....breast cancer is a different issue as it grows in an area much closer to the lymph nodes in the armpits and so can spread more rapidly .....breast cancer remission rate are less than 50% but as someone said above , somethings gonna get ya...!!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

No, it's a different stat. If a higher percentage are surviving it, that doesn't mean less die overall, as more might get it in the first place. Regardless, if the total numbers are similar, it's worth looking at whether twice the expenditure on one than the other is the right way forward.

Not much for me to reply to then

Don't you think it's unusual that one type of cancer is getting twice the investment than the other, despite the fact that they cause a similar amount of deaths?

Investment or fund raising? The Race for Life and Pink Ribbon events for Breast Cancer have been going for years.

The figures for the number of men dying of Prostate Cancer are from their own website asking people to fund raise.

https://prostatecanceruk.org/about-...cancer-now-a-bigger-killer-than-breast-cancer

We believe we need to fund around £120 million of research over the next eight years to reverse the trend and achieve our 10-year goal to halve the number of expected prostate cancer deaths by 2026. And we’re asking the public to help raise the vital funds needed by signing up for one of our March for Men walks this summer.

 

[The_Viper]

You realise that the funding is WHY breast cancer deaths have been reduced so much? All this will mean is that there will be more funding now channelled into prostate cancer.

What is the ****ing point about getting outraged about this?

**** me some of you people just look for excuses to get offended.

Agree with the fact that the funding is the direct reason why Breast cancer deaths have fallen. Totally disagree with the funding being funnelled elsewhere, breast cancer awareness and the campaigns behind it are far too profitable to stop, it's almost become a business model and it's paying out millions.

 

[Triggaaar]

Investment or fund raising?

Both. What do you think?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Both. What do you think?

So how are you going to raise money for them? Are you joining in the Walk?

Just to add to my previous post, women have been doing the Race for Life for over 20 years.

£547 million has been raised in that time.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/support-us/find-an-event/charity-runs/race-for-life