Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition

[ROSM]

Yes I did. A pointed speech by diplomatic/Chinese standards that just about kept to the right side of the line. He could/should have done the same with Trump.

Cobblers, Bercow's ego is legendary. He is coming to the end of his tenure so expect to see more grandstanding in the coming months ... adding value to the inevitable autobiography.

See, doing something for publicity, reaction and self aggrandisement. The kind of language and behaviour people like Trump and Piers Morgan should resonate with.

 

[BLOCK F]

Yes I did. A pointed speech by diplomatic/Chinese standards that just about kept to the right side of the line. He could/should have done the same with Trump.

Cobblers, Bercow's ego is legendary. He is coming to the end of his tenure so expect to see more grandstanding in the coming months ... adding value to the inevitable autobiography.

Napoleon Syndrome?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

...
Bercow's ego is legendary. He is coming to the end of his tenure so expect to see more grandstanding in the coming months ... adding value to the inevitable autobiography.

What is this "tenure" of which you speak? Speakers stay in office for as long as they wish. The convention is that their re-election to parliament is not opposed by any of the major parties.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What is it that the Trumpeteers here have to fear from protest? There is a large number of people who feel very strongly about Trump and how we certainly shouldn't lay out the red carpet for someone who they see as a tyrant who was very little in common with our values. People are worries about what his impact will be on not just the US but the wider world, why should they not voice their opinions?

Post brexit, there does seem to be some sort of pervasive anti debate mantra usually, and ironically, based on the argument that it's democracy, the people have voted so that's the end of the story....

When has anyone said the protesters shouldn't be allowed to criticise or protest or voice an opinion? This railing against an imaginary censorship is all a bit silly. You and others seem to be confusing criticising or questioning the protester's motives/inconsistencies as some form of censorship. I thought it was just part of that debate you seem so keen on.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

What is this "tenure" of which you speak? Speakers stay in office for as long as they wish. The convention is that their re-election to parliament is not opposed by any of the major parties.

Bercow said he will stand down after 9 years. This is his last year, according to him.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

See, doing something for publicity, reaction and self aggrandisement. The kind of language and behaviour people like Trump and Piers Morgan should resonate with.

Imagine being trapped in a lift with Trump, Bercow, Morgan

 

[ROSM]

Imagine being trapped in a lift with Trump, Bercow, Morgan

I'd shoot Morgan twice to make sure

 

[vegster]

Indeed as Dennis Skinner said after the Speakers speech 'in respect of that point or order two words well done'

There is a big clue at the start 'point of order' which the Speaker is rightly controlling.

There is nothing to stop Mrs May inviting Trump over and hiring out the O2 for Trump to give a speech to MPs who want to go along. He just won't have the historic setting of the houses of parliament.
Anyway many MPs have already said they won't attend any Trump speech.

You've got to admire our Brexit friends who keep shouting we've got our country back we can make our own decisions again. But as soon as a decision is made which correctly follows the UK legal position they don't like it.

What next from Trump a tirade against ?? Whatever it is you will hear first on twitter

' POTUS NOT respected in UK! Lunch with Princess Anne @ Maccy D's not good enough. Bad trade deal for them! "

 

[mikeyjh]

When has anyone said the protesters shouldn't be allowed to criticise or protest or voice an opinion? This railing against an imaginary censorship is all a bit silly. You and others seem to be confusing criticising or questioning the protester's motives/inconsistencies as some form of censorship. I thought it was just part of that debate you seem so keen on.

Oh behave, there's a very obvious undertone to this and the brexit thread where 'democracy has spoken' so we need to shut up. You know what's going on, this belittling of petitions and protest is pretty obvious. Even the ill worded counter pro Trump counter petition accusers protestors of 'gagging' free speech.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Far worse things going on in this world than Donald Trump. The overreaction over one man is completely ridiculous now. What's the point?

 

[alfredmizen]

Oh behave, there's a very obvious undertone to this and the brexit thread where 'democracy has spoken' so we need to shut up. You know what's going on, this belittling of petitions and protest is pretty obvious. Even the ill worded counter pro Trump counter petition accusers protestors of 'gagging' free speech.

Youre not quite so keen on free speech when youre trying to avoid an awkward question ive asked you are you ? fancy giving me an answer now ?

 

[studio150]

Well worth a read

https://theawl.com/in-his-own-words-917f670ccf59#.x9axmoslq

 

[brakespear]

Oh behave, there's a very obvious undertone to this and the brexit thread where 'democracy has spoken' so we need to shut up. You know what's going on, this belittling of petitions and protest is pretty obvious. Even the ill worded counter pro Trump counter petition accusers protestors of 'gagging' free speech.

Absolutely this - the amount of times recently I've seen people suggesting that others should stop complaining, settle down and get on with things, as if somehow if a decision (whichever it may be) goes against you you're expected to give up on your ideals.

 

[Two Professors]

Trump at his best, there are so many terrorist attacks in Europe that they are no longer reported!!!!!!!!!!!

Then his press team list attacks they say were not reported, when they had wide coverage at the time.

This is surely getting onto the levels of Stalin in terms of looking to control the press.

You accuse them of making things up,but I don't see any back-up at all for your little rant.Cool story,bro

 

[Two Professors]

Napoleon Syndrome?

Wonder if he wears make-up,as well as high heels?

 

[BigGully]

Absolutely this - the amount of times recently I've seen people suggesting that others should stop complaining, settle down and get on with things, as if somehow if a decision (whichever it may be) goes against you you're expected to give up on your ideals.

Isnt the complaint that 'the complainers' continue to show absolutely no respect of democratic decisions, nearly to a point where they feel their own position is worthy of greater importance than the actual elected politican or political decision.

 

[Two Professors]

What is this "tenure" of which you speak? Speakers stay in office for as long as they wish. The convention is that their re-election to parliament is not opposed by any of the major parties.

Even more reason for the PM to call an election.Don't think Buckingham would re-elect him as an Independent with official opposition.

 

[studio150]

You accuse them of making things up,but I don't see any back-up at all for your little rant.Cool story,bro

Perhaps if you took your blindfold off and looked you would locate details within seconds. However given that you are to lazy to even do that, have a read of the following

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/07/white-house-list-donald-trumps-undereported-terror-list-paris-attacks-berlin-truck-killings

If you finally take an interest and read the press release from the White house, you will note that they are unable to spell attack or attacker

 

[Lord Bracknell]

You accuse them of making things up,but I don't see any back-up at all for your little rant.Cool story,bro

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090

Christ this sort of stuff is terrifyingly Orwellian.