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Prevent Donald Trump from making a state visit to the United Kingdom - petition
- Thread starter Wozza
- Start date
I appreciate this wasn't a reply to me but I'll answer. Personally I am aware of other nations with similar policies and have criticised and acted accordingly. Being a member of an international political party exposes you to stuff. I have never discussed them on here because there has never been any threads pertaining to them. Equally I have never felt compelled to start one because there has never been much interest. One thing polarising politics does is energise people and kick start interest in people where there hasn't been any previously. I think for many the US's new policies is the first time punitive migration issues have entered their world. Their first reaction will be direct i.e. against the US. But we will see a ripple of protest and interest widening out to other nations I'm sure. That said, it's human nature to fight what directly affects you so the majority will most likely just criticise the US. An American friend of mine is now directly and negatively affected by these new laws, and the way Trump is posturing with another nation, so my concentration is definitely with opposing Trump at the moment.
That said, I'm consistent in my ideology but I don't feel any need to apportion my energy equally amongst causes. I also don't feel anyone else needs to. No one has time for this; we're not professional 24/7 protesters. Also, I make my rules.
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studio150
Well-known member
BBC4 last night started a rerun of The Nazis a warning from history. This is an excellent a2ard winning 6 part documentary.
What struck me was something that popped up during Hitler's speeches during election rallies before he was invited to become Chancellor, which was ' Germany first'.
The parallels are frightening and need to be challenged.
Worrying times
What struck me was something that popped up during Hitler's speeches during election rallies before he was invited to become Chancellor, which was ' Germany first'.
The parallels are frightening and need to be challenged.
Worrying times
Straight up, unadulterated, liars in the White House.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...efugees-bowling-green-massacre-never-happened
I wonder if one of our resicent Trump apologists can explain that and tell me why it's not extremely concerning.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...efugees-bowling-green-massacre-never-happened
I wonder if one of our resicent Trump apologists can explain that and tell me why it's not extremely concerning.
ROSM
Well-known member
Look if you're going to pick up on every small little error, likely mistakenly creating a fictitious terrorist attack on the us, then it's going to be a long 4 years
Pompous arse.
I'm not an 'apologist' for anyone, thanks. Why should I be? All this 'you and yours' crap? You have literally no clue what my values are - what I stand for.
One thing I'm fairly strong on is not making fun of the brutal death of innocent children - regardless of the crimes of their relations.
If we accept that such 'collateral damage' is inventible, that's one thing. Making light of it is quite another, and shows you for exactly who you are.
ROSM
Well-known member
Just to point out that a number of people on here posted in defence of Trumps young son who was being ridiculed. I think any child shouldn't have to pay for the actions of their parents whether that's ridicule or death
No, I did read about the and the "dumb" policy. Its embarrassing.
He'd had a long day, to be fair. We've all been there.
studio150
Well-known member
When you think it can't getvany worse Trump reverses another Obama legacy by allowing the mentally ill to own guns.
Surely more gun control is required not less.
Surely more gun control is required not less.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
yes, thats a special kind of stupid. its going to be interesting how nutter element in US deal with the next shooting atrocity, for the past decade they've claimed them to be staged events to bring about gun control.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
Sadly, in Trumps world not. Bear in mind he now has to please all the various sub groups who supported him in his election. we have already seen the shift in abortion law in order to please the Pro life Christian lobby, the wall is going ahead ( allegedly ) for those anti immigration/jobs for the US types. This will appease the republican gun lobby who felt their rights were being threatened. If he does not live up to his many promises he may well find himself on the wrong end of a gun.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
on the other hand, at this rate he'll have fulfilled about every election pledge by end of February, without having done much tangible. what will he do for the rest of his 4 years 
W.C.
New member
- Oct 31, 2011
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Come now, 'The Bowling Green Massacre', catchy name isn't it?
You have offered your view as to why you choose not to apportion your political energy equally, I think most of us are similar, however when you and others show particular vitriol against Trump based on a policy that Obama firstly recommended already then implementing something more punitive without a similar reaction then you wonder if firstly you even knew or if you did why not a consistent reaction, it absoluelty undermines the credibility of attacking Trump.
For me personally I wasnt aware of Obamas intervention, but I am wholly consistent, if I did know I would have supported Obamas position just as I do Trumps.
Trump calls Canadian prime minister after mosque attack
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-after-mosque-attack/?utm_term=.e678de53c781
On Sunday night, when he believed the attacker was a Moroccan, and was happy to use the incident as justification for his travel ban.
Since the Moroccan guy was identified as a witness, and the attacker as a white Canadian right-wing nutjob, Trump has declined to comment further (unless I've missed it?)
Why would he need to alter his condolences after the identity of the perpetrator had been clarified ?