[Albion] Premier League plans for the remainder of the season *** ALL FIXTURES POSTPONED 3rd April

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bluenitsuj

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Just take the final tables based on where teams were half way stage. Everybody played everyone once, we were not bottom three, jobs a goodun.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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I don't disagree with you, but it does have knock on effects for champions league games, who qualifies from England? Same as last years final time? Leicester and Chelsea wouldn't be happy at all with this situation.

Or, if PL declares the season null and void, there's no guarantee that UEFA would. They could say that English clubs didn't want to be part of the CL in 20/21 and allocate their places to other leagues.

The PL is a rich league OK but I do think the idea that every country goes along with what England wants is a bit misguided (as we're regularly reminded during the Brexit negotiations)
 




soistes

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Sep 12, 2012
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Why? B'fluff have 10 players either injured or unwell, no one is suggesting they shouldn't play on Saturday. If the whole team had to be isolated then I would agree but 3 players isn't a massive problem.

I agree - unfortunate for Leicester, but in principle it’s a similar risk for all teams that one or more of their player will be infected, so no different from other kinds of illness or injury.
 


Jim in the West

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But we currently have no idea how long it would have to be postponed for - you have to reach a cut-off point for everyone (not just the PL). And you're creating further complications down the line in order to accommodate the remainder of this season, which would damage the integrity of the following seasons competitions, with many issues to resolve primarily around the schedule. We'd go into the next season with all kinds of complex truncations and unsatisfactory situations. It'd be a mess.

IMO we take the hit now and make a clean break. Season 19/20 finishes as though it never started, and we begin the next season (whenever that may be) with a clean slate, starting as we were last summer. 'Take it on the chin' as we've been told before. Yes there'll be some massive disappointments, but football really isn't all THAT important in the great scheme of things, it certainly isn't life and death. However they try to resolve this, there will be winners and losers, there's no perfect outcome to fix this. It may not be fixable, so take the simplest option and we all know where we stand.

Liverpool can be "moral champions". Everyone else will just have to get on with it. I lost a precious Excel spreadsheet once with all kinds of important numbers on it that I'd slaved over for months. Gone at the touch of a button. A right shitter, but I started again from scratch and carried on from there. The world continued to revolve. Thats just what football will have to do.

Indeed - I've had several of those spreadsheet moments. End the season now and reconvene in August (with Leeds still in the Championship, obviously)
 




sparkie

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Just take the final tables based on where teams were half way stage. Everybody played everyone once, we were not bottom three, jobs a goodun.
Adjusting for the fact that we played Spurs twice before we played Bournemouth once.

Some merit, but you can't really relegate someone who hasn't played 38 games.
 


hans kraay fan club

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I agree - unfortunate for Leicester, but in principle it’s a similar risk for all teams that one or more of their player will be infected, so no different from other kinds of illness or injury.

Of course it is different :facepalm:

There might be 'just' three Leicester players affected, but if even ONE of them tests positive, then everybody who has been in close contact with them (ie the entire first team squad) will be made to isolate for 14 days.
 


SeagullinExile

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If abandoning the season means that Palace didn't beat us? Then I'm in.
 




Gwylan

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The other factor to consider is any legal action. If the league is declared null and void, I would be shocked if WBA and Leeds took it on the chin. It's odds-on that it would end up in the courts ... and what if they won the case?
 


Jim in the West

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I agree - unfortunate for Leicester, but in principle it’s a similar risk for all teams that one or more of their player will be infected, so no different from other kinds of illness or injury.

Yes, but the Man City v Arsenal match was postponed because a few Arsenal players had self-isolated. I don't think it's a matter of fairness - it's the risks involved. The vast majority of people who contract the virus do so from people who are showing no symptoms. For all we know, the whole Leicester squad could have Coronavirus
 


Jim in the West

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The other factor to consider is any legal action. If the league is declared null and void, I would be shocked if WBA and Leeds took it on the chin. It's odds-on that it would end up in the courts ... and what if they won the case?

Coronavirus is a classic case of Force Majeure. I very much doubt Leeds or West Brom would have much luck if the season was abandoned.
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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At least we get Andone back on July 1st to knock in the goals. Even if Schelotto has left.

It'd be a farce to postpone and restart.
 


sparkie

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The other factor to consider is any legal action. If the league is declared null and void, I would be shocked if WBA and Leeds took it on the chin. It's odds-on that it would end up in the courts ... and what if they won the case?
Why not Fulham ?

They still have to play both WBA and Leeds.
 






Easy 10

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The other factor to consider is any legal action. If the league is declared null and void, I would be shocked if WBA and Leeds took it on the chin. It's odds-on that it would end up in the courts ... and what if they won the case?

They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Neither of them have won anything yet - as it stands there's no guarantee they'd be promoted, so why should they win a case based on what MIGHT have happened had the season continued to its conclusion?

And given the unprecedented circumstances we are currently in, I'm pretty sure the Court would rule in favour of the EFL, who were (in line with everyone else) simply complying with a government directive to ban all activities which involve large gatherings.

Nobody will get anywhere trying to sue there way up or into the CL, imo.
 


theboybilly

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The other factor to consider is any legal action. If the league is declared null and void, I would be shocked if WBA and Leeds took it on the chin. It's odds-on that it would end up in the courts ... and what if they won the case?

On what grounds would they 'win' though? That they were occupying the top two places with almost a quarter of the season to go?
 


Gwylan

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Coronavirus is a classic case of Force Majeure. I very much doubt Leeds or West Brom would have much luck if the season was abandoned.

Yes, it's force majeure but that doesn't mean that the league is declared null and void. WBA and Leeds would argue (and certainly will) that because of the circumstances, all remaining games should be declared draws
 








Gwylan

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They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Neither of them have won anything yet - as it stands there's no guarantee they'd be promoted, so why should they win a case based on what MIGHT have happened had the season continued to its conclusion?

And given the unprecedented circumstances we are currently in, I'm pretty sure the Court would rule in favour of the EFL, who were (in line with everyone else) simply complying with a government directive to ban all activities which involve large gatherings.

Nobody will get anywhere trying to sue there way up or into the CL, imo.

On what grounds would they 'win' though? That they were occupying the top two places with almost a quarter of the season to go?

Why not Fulham ?

They still have to play both WBA and Leeds.

As I said: declaring the league null and void is one solution but saying each remaining match is a draw is another equally valid one.

What if the PL adopts the first and the EFL adopts the second (perfectly possible as they're separate organisations). It would be opening a real can or worms if the the PL denied promotion to the Championship winners
 


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