[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[Jimmy Grimble]

I wonder what would happen if the PL managed to complete the season but the football league didn’t.

Would the bottom 3 be relegated still? I imagine the 17 other clubs would be happy for them to go as it would mean more share of the money for them, but then you have a 27 team Championship which would be ridiculous. Unless of course they promoted the teams in the current automatic positions.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lense]

There are always a number of selfish idiots who have been breaking the lockdown all along. This will merely encourage more.

Sadly I have to agree, and in my village, its not the "kids", its not those in desperate housing or really difficult economic conditions its the ignorant, middle-class, middle-aged men and women who believe they have found a "clever" way of bending the rules, who seem to believe that the rules simply don't need to be applied as rigorously for them - "we haven't got symptoms, our friends haven't, so its Ok for us to sit on our drive and have a few drinkies together.." . What's worse, they make me feel like an up-tight **** 'cos I don't agree!!!

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Sadly I have to agree, and in my village, its not the "kids", its not those in desperate housing or really difficult economic conditions its the ignorant, middle-class, middle-aged men and women who believe they have found a "clever" way of bending the rules, who seem to believe that the rules simply don't need to be applied as rigorously for them - "we haven't got symptoms, our friends haven't, so its Ok for us to sit on our drive and have a few drinkies together.." . What's worse, they make me feel like an up-tight **** 'cos I don't agree!!!

Both my sets of neighbors have allowed occasional guests. It pisses me right off.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Summary of proposed re-start dates from this article-

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-h...urn-to-action-after-coronavirus-idUKKBN22J1WE


Confirmed re-starts:

• Germany- May 16
• Faroe Islands- May 9
• Albania- May 20
• Hungary- 23 May
• Czech Republic- May 25
• Poland 29 May
• Portugal 30 May
• Serbia 30 May
• Turkey 12 June



Intended re-starts:

• Armenia- May/June
• Montenegro- 1 June
• Bulgaria- June 5 / June 12
• Slovakia 6 June
• Greece- 14 June
• Sweden- 14 June
• Russia June 21 / June 28
• England- June
• Spain- June
• Ireland- June
• Romania- June

Unless the Prem are really going to buck the trend- it does seem to be pretty likely that come June the Prem plus most of these other leagues will be back in action

 

[Stumpy Tim]

I wonder what would happen if the PL managed to complete the season but the football league didn’t.

Would the bottom 3 be relegated still? I imagine the 17 other clubs would be happy for them to go as it would mean more share of the money for them, but then you have a 27 team Championship which would be ridiculous. Unless of course they promoted the teams in the current automatic positions.

It wouldn´t surprise me if the Premier League accepted the promotion of Leeds and WBA, but only relegated two teams down. That reduction in risk (i.e. 2 down, rather than 3) may be enough for the Premier League clubs to vote through the neutral ground plan

 

[Weststander]

It wouldn´t surprise me if the Premier League accepted the promotion of Leeds and WBA, but only relegated two teams down. That reduction in risk (i.e. 2 down, rather than 3) may be enough for the Premier League clubs to vote through the neutral ground plan

Another idea mentioned is for the relegated clubs to receive inflated parachute payments this time around.

Which would cause the EFL to explode with anger.

 

[drew]

I wonder what would happen if the PL managed to complete the season but the football league didn’t.

Would the bottom 3 be relegated still? I imagine the 17 other clubs would be happy for them to go as it would mean more share of the money for them, but then you have a 27 team Championship which would be ridiculous. Unless of course they promoted the teams in the current automatic positions.

That's an excellent point because all this furore for the leagues to be finished will be pointless if the EFL don't complete theirs and provide legitimate candidates for promotion to the EPL (or each division for that matter). Also, if the EFL does progress, I assume they will have to include play offs.

 

[Yes Chef]

Genuine question, and apologies if it has been already covered, but does the FA not have some sort of provision in it's rules for the abandonment of a season? A sort of 'in the event of global pandemic /nuclear fallout /alien invasion all results and league positions will be null and void', if only to preempt the arguments and litigation

 

[darkwolf666]

How about, to keep things fair and in relation to what was going on before the shut down, you take each clubs’ current form and use that for their remaining games.

So the average of points scored over the previous 9 games for all but Man City, Sheffield United, Arsenal and Aston Villa all of which have 10 to play. Add this to the pre shut down table, Bob’s your uncle a “fair” way to end the season...

Not perfect, but nor are the current proposals for neutral venues with various rule changes...

 

[Dirty Dave]

How about, to keep things fair and in relation to what was going on before the shut down, you take each clubs’ current form and use that for their remaining games.

So the average of points scored over the previous 9 games for all but Man City, Sheffield United, Arsenal and Aston Villa all of which have 10 to play. Add this to the pre shut down table, Bob’s your uncle a “fair” way to end the season...

Not perfect, but nor are the current proposals for neutral venues with various rule changes...

The main issue is that some team's opponents over the past 9 games were a lot tougher than others. It's a far from fair way of deciding points from the remaining 9 / 10 games

Also, haven't looked but it would surely put us in a lot of trouble given our 'recent' form

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[darkwolf666]

The main issue is that some team's opponents over the past 9 games were a lot tougher than others. It's a far from fair way of deciding points from the remaining 9 / 10 games

Also, haven't looked but it would surely put us in a lot of trouble given our 'recent' form

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Nope, would stay up, the team's around us are all as shit...

 

[Dirty Dave]

Nope, would stay up, the team's around us are all as shit...

Ah ok, I'd go along with that then!

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[Weststander]

Let’s cut to the chase, ending NSC arguments on this matter. 17 PL clubs to vote for the immediate relegation of Villa, West Ham and Norwich.

“I’ll tell you, honestly, I will love it if they did that. Love it.”

 

[jessiejames]

It wouldn´t surprise me if the Premier League accepted the promotion of Leeds and WBA, but only relegated two teams down. That reduction in risk (i.e. 2 down, rather than 3) may be enough for the Premier League clubs to vote through the neutral ground plan

Why those two teams, both can be caught. There will be many legal battles if this happens.

 

[Gwylan]

Genuine question, and apologies if it has been already covered, but does the FA not have some sort of provision in it's rules for the abandonment of a season? A sort of 'in the event of global pandemic /nuclear fallout /alien invasion all results and league positions will be null and void', if only to preempt the arguments and litigation

I'm pretty sure this was discussed some weeks ago and the conclusion was that there was no force majeure clause in the agreement. If there were a clear plan as to what to do, there wouldn't be a need for all these discussions as it would have been laid out in the agreement.

 

[trueblue]

OK. Off the wall suggestion, probably full of flaws. To make the neutral grounds concept more palatable, perhaps relegation could now be decided this season by a separate competition involving only the bottom 8 of the Premier League as it stands. Not a play-off tournament as that would be far too random, but a mini-league - maybe with each team playing the rest once only. Of course, the likes of Newcastle would kick off about being involved but perhaps it could employ a handicap system. So Norwich would start on minus 6 points, Villa on minus 2, Bournemouth, Watford and West Ham on zero, Albion on plus 2 etc.

Bottom 3 go down in the usual fashion. Reduces the number of games required, lessens the loss of home advantage, keeps the TV companies and the clubs seeking promotion for the Championship happy. Strange concept but these are strange times - and it's not as stupid as playing shorter matches or handing the biggest clubs a huge advantage by allowing extra subs.

Doesn't solve what happens in the race for European places, but they could so a similar thing I suppose. And the likes of Palace can just take a few months off and do us all a favour.

 

[Yes Chef]

I'm pretty sure this was discussed some weeks ago and the conclusion was that there was no force majeure clause in the agreement. If there were a clear plan as to what to do, there wouldn't be a need for all these discussions as it would have been laid out in the agreement.

Thank you for your reply - I have to admit I find it inexplicable that no such clause existed

 

[Arkwright]

Spoke to a Millwall player today, they are back in training Monday with a maximum of two players per pitch. Didnt appear very happy with the situation. Mentioned some overseas players have returned home and would have to self isolate for two weeks further delaying any potential restart.

 

[swindonseagull]

OK. Off the wall suggestion, probably full of flaws. To make the neutral grounds concept more palatable, perhaps relegation could now be decided this season by a separate competition involving only the bottom 8 of the Premier League as it stands. Not a play-off tournament as that would be far too random, but a mini-league - maybe with each team playing the rest once only. Of course, the likes of Newcastle would kick off about being involved but perhaps it could employ a handicap system. So Norwich would start on minus 6 points, Villa on minus 2, Bournemouth, Watford and West Ham on zero, Albion on plus 2 etc.

Bottom 3 go down in the usual fashion. Reduces the number of games required, lessens the loss of home advantage, keeps the TV companies and the clubs seeking promotion for the Championship happy. Strange concept but these are strange times - and it's not as stupid as playing shorter matches or handing the biggest clubs a huge advantage by allowing extra subs.

Doesn't solve what happens in the race for European places, but they could so a similar thing I suppose. And the likes of Palace can just take a few months off and do us all a favour.

Give it a rest.......do you have a new idea/plan for the EPL every hour?........all equally as ridiculous.

 

[blue-shifted]

Let’s cut to the chase, ending NSC arguments on this matter. 17 PL clubs to vote for the immediate relegation of Villa, West Ham and Norwich.

“I’ll tell you, honestly, I will love it if they did that. Love it.”

Plus they lumped Palace in there as well out of spite. Ah we can dream