[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[Weststander]

Relegate tomorrow Villa, Brighton and Norwich as stinking the PL out this season. Even the gifted Chris Waddle couldn't see anything endearing or special about our football in the slightest.

Promote Leeds and WBA, with a round robin play off for the next 4 in the Championship, behind closed doors as soon as safe.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I was bored today and put together 3 groups of teams

Would want to void - West Ham/Brighton/Southampton/Bournemouth/Norwich/Villa/Spurs/Newcastle/Palace/Watford


Maybe, depending on what voiding looked liked - Arsenal/Everton/Sheff United/Burnley/Chelsea/Man City
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No to void - Liverpool/Leicester/United/Wolves


I make It as many teams would want it voided as those that don’t currently.

It’s complete guess work - except West Ham/Spurs who apparently said we should.

Next meeting should be interesting.

 

[GT49er]

Scottish football showing signs of common sense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52092857

 

[Goring-by-Seagull]

I don't know if it's been suggested before but my idea to what I see as a good as can be solution to this season is as follows
The season 19/20 is frozen for now,hopefully the new 20/21 season starts as normal and runs to the end of the season as normal and champions and relegation as usual.
The unplayed games In the 19/20 season are given the points as per the corresponding games of the 20/21 season and that table would continue to run until the end of the season whereby the champion would be crowned ( which would be Liverpool ) and the relegation would also apply,now as there are two tables running side by side it's possible that (example) Norwich are relegated in the 19/20 table but aren't in the 20/21 table
They would still be relegated alongside the second bottom team ,so two teams are relegated from each season and two teams are champions/ promoted if there is a tie a play off could be played,this could work for all the divisions I think,hopefully I've explained it ok ,what do you think

Think you've cracked it. How has this not already been mentioned? Mods I think this requires its own thread

 

[bhafc99]

Scottish football showing signs of common sense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52092857

At the end of the day Celtic would have won everything anyway, so why bother.


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[GT49er]

At the end of the day Celtic would have won everything anyway, so why bother.

Promotion. Relegation. European qualification. TV money. Next question?

Good they are showing signs of common sense though. Others should follow.

 

[blue-shifted]

Promotion. Relegation. European qualification. TV money. Next question?

Good they are showing signs of common sense though. Others should follow.

Is it common sense or is it just your opinion?

If it were common sense then ...

1) There wouldn't be hundreds of posts discussing the merits, we'd all just be agreeing on this widely agreed viewpoint
2) The clubs and the football governing bodies would have mutually agreed the best way forward.

None of this has happened. It's your opinion. Many, many people disagree

 

[wardy wonder land]

So, not bothere to read the thread,but what are the issues with the following :

No league cup
No FA CUP - maybe a rejigged comp in the new year
No Champs league / ufea cup - finish from current position in feb 21
No international qualifiers or friendlies

4 / 5 weeks july /Aug play games every 3 / 4 days to finish all leagues - playoffs just 3rd v 4th (final)

4 weeks "off season"

20/21 starts mid sept

 

[blue-shifted]

So, not bothere to read the thread,but what are the issues with the following :

No league cup
No FA CUP - maybe a rejigged comp in the new year
No Champs league / ufea cup - finish from current position in feb 21
No international qualifiers or friendlies

4 / 5 weeks july /Aug play games every 3 / 4 days to finish all leagues - playoffs just 3rd v 4th (final)

4 weeks "off season"

20/21 starts mid sept

Bickering (financial fairness) between the bodies is one issue. So the Football League, may say to the PL, why should we lose our source of income, when you're not losing any of your games. National associations will argue that qualifiers and friendlies should still be played, when the leagues aren't making any sacrifices at all.

Nobody is publicly brazen enough to be making those arguments whilst so many are dying. But there will come a time again when we're over the hump of this, when the semblance of spirit of cooperation is gone, everyone is looking out for their patch of turf and only their patch of turf once more.

 

[GT49er]

Is it common sense or is it just your opinion?

If it were common sense then ...

1) There wouldn't be hundreds of posts discussing the merits, we'd all just be agreeing on this widely agreed viewpoint
2) The clubs and the football governing bodies would have mutually agreed the best way forward.

None of this has happened. It's your opinion. Many, many people disagree

The 'we-must-finish-behind-closed-doors-in-outer-Mongolia-wearing-gas-masks' faction is losing ground; constantly and steadily. A week ago, gung-ho we'll complete the season was a widely held view - fewer and fewer are still clinging to it. If you want to carry on doing that, fine.

P.S. It is both my opinion and common sense.

 

[wardy wonder land]

money talks

for example (these figures are made up for illustration)

Paddy power takes 25M in bets pays ou 5M if liverpool win, keeps 20M - season VOID PPower pays back 25M

Sky - 25% of games unplayed - they will wantt 25% of the 100M given to each club as they cannot sell those games to the punters

 

[essbee1]

money talks

for example (these figures are made up for illustration)

Paddy power takes 25M in bets pays ou 5M if liverpool win, keeps 20M - season VOID PPower pays back 25M

Sky - 25% of games unplayed - they will wantt 25% of the 100M given to each club as they cannot sell those games to the punters

Or as someone else has suggested - they could be given more games to cover next season/the season after for the same price.

 

[Weststander]

money talks

for example (these figures are made up for illustration)

Paddy power takes 25M in bets pays ou 5M if liverpool win, keeps 20M - season VOID PPower pays back 25M

Sky - 25% of games unplayed - they will wantt 25% of the 100M given to each club as they cannot sell those games to the punters

Similarly, all the punters who bet on ManC pre season and early doors to retain the PL (must be colossal funds world wide), will get their stake back.

 

[cjd]

money talks

for example (these figures are made up for illustration)

Paddy power takes 25M in bets pays ou 5M if liverpool win, keeps 20M - season VOID PPower pays back 25M

Sky - 25% of games unplayed - they will wantt 25% of the 100M given to each club as they cannot sell those games to the punters

Money does indeed talk.


Sky know full well if they demand 25 per cent of their money back and it bankrupts a number of clubs, then they will no longer have the product they want to 'sell' in future seasons.

A compromise from all sides will evolve.

 

[drew]

I was bored today and put together 3 groups of teams

Would want to void - West Ham/Brighton/Southampton/Bournemouth/Norwich/Villa/Spurs/Newcastle/Palace/Watford


Maybe, depending on what voiding looked liked - Arsenal/Everton/Sheff United/Burnley/Chelsea/Man City
/


No to void - Liverpool/Leicester/United/Wolves


I make It as many teams would want it voided as those that don’t currently.

It’s complete guess work - except West Ham/Spurs who apparently said we should.

Next meeting should be interesting.

I think, given a choice, Arsenal would accept voiding because it would see them in the Champions League based on last years position as Man City can't compete in Europe, it also makes no difference to City so they may vote to void as they would retain title (and prevent Liverpool winning). Likewise, Chelsea would also be in Champions League. If the league was played to a conclusion, they may drop out of the top 5 (remember city).

I make that 13 clubs to void. Everton might show a bit of malice and scupper Liverpool from winning the title and that would be the 14 votes needed to pass the motion.

 

[Pavilionaire]

The longer this Premier League farce continues the more detached I feel from football. I think it's socially irresponsible that they haven't ruled out restarting the season before the end of June like every other sport on the planet seems to have done. And then we get the Jack Grealish story. Premier League - a f*cked up business model with f*cked up ethics.

 

[Milano]

I just don’t understand the problem with just completing this season however long that takes, if it’s Christmas then so what, so what if some teams will have lost/acquired players? It will be the same for all. It is called a season not a year. For sporting fairness and spirit it has to be finished, if it were less than 15 games in then sure abandon it but it’s 75% done.
Sadly cricket I fear might just lose the entire season as it hasn’t started yet and is far more reliant on a limited window.

 

[drew]

Money does indeed talk.


Sky know full well if they demand 25 per cent of their money back and it bankrupts a number of clubs, then they will no longer have the product they want to 'sell' in future seasons.

A compromise from all sides will evolve.

I'm not sure any prem club would become bankrupt because they lost £25m to Sky!

Maybe down the leagues they would certainly struggle but tv money is a much smaller percentage of a clubs income.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I just don’t understand the problem with just completing this season however long that takes, if it’s Christmas then so what, so what if some teams will have lost/acquired players? It will be the same for all. It is called a season not a year. For sporting fairness and spirit it has to be finished, if it were less than 15 games in then sure abandon it but it’s 75% done.
Sadly cricket I fear might just lose the entire season as it hasn’t started yet and is far more reliant on a limited window.

It is certainy not the same for all. For instance a wealthier club may bankroll a huge spending spree which could take villa for instance out of the bottom three at the expense of someone like us or b'mouth etc. That affects the integrity of the competition.

 

[drew]

I just don’t understand the problem with just completing this season however long that takes, if it’s Christmas then so what, so what if some teams will have lost/acquired players? It will be the same for all. It is called a season not a year. For sporting fairness and spirit it has to be finished, if it were less than 15 games in then sure abandon it but it’s 75% done.
Sadly cricket I fear might just lose the entire season as it hasn’t started yet and is far more reliant on a limited window.

Suggest you read the whole thread then because there a plenty of posts putting up reasonable arguments as to the problems of trying to complete the season beyond the summer!