[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[schmunk]

Or no goalie at all, or even 5 a side?

Do we even have 5 goalies?

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Multi ball anyone?


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[drew]

Not quite correct- it is based on some measures being kept in place until the infection rate is very low, as a very safe strategy to controlling the overall spread.

http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs

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The reality is the countries that are ahead of us on the curve are opening back up and we will do the same. Many people are at work now, more people will be come June. This is being done as part of an overall strategy to keep the spread managed below NHS capacity.

I am not really clear why people seem to think footballers, who have access to 24/7 medical attention are a better looked after than almost anyone in the country, will not be able to go back to work, when many people are working now, and more will be come June.

I appreciate the implications of a footballer missing a match through illness or injury can be significant. But this is always the case. Come June Covid will be one reason amongst many that a player could be ill or injured and miss a game / games.

But if one player injures his ankle then it's just him that is out. If he is out with Covid then his whole team are in isolation as are the team they have just played bearing in mind games will be coming every 3/4 days!!

 

[cjd]

Not quite correct- it is based on some measures being kept in place until the infection rate is very low, as a very safe strategy to controlling the overall spread.

http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs

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The reality is the countries that are ahead of us on the curve are opening back up and we will do the same. Many people are at work now, more people will be come June. This is being done as part of an overall strategy to keep the spread managed below NHS capacity.

I am not really clear why people seem to think footballers, who have access to 24/7 medical attention are a better looked after than almost anyone in the country, will not be able to go back to work, when many people are working now, and more will be come June.

I appreciate the implications of a footballer missing a match through illness or injury can be significant. But this is always the case. Come June Covid will be one reason amongst many that a player could be ill or injured and miss a game / games.

I think you are missing by far the most important part re your diagnosis of a player being out for 7 days if he has the virus.

Are you aware that some people have actually DIED because of this virus ?

 

[dwayne]

With the German league getting the green light for may 15. Beginning to worry that the prem reboot really will happen.

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[Marty___Mcfly]

But if one player injures his ankle then it's just him that is out. If he is out with Covid then his whole team are in isolation as are the team they have just played bearing in mind games will be coming every 3/4 days!!

Why would the whole team be put in isolation? The requirement is for the individual to be in isolation for 7 days. Many people are at work now- if one person in a call centre gets a positive test they isolate for 7 days, there is no need to shut the whole call centre and send everyone home.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

I think you are missing by far the most important part re your diagnosis of a player being out for 7 days if he has the virus.

Are you aware that some people have actually DIED because of this virus ?

Yes. But the chances of a young healthy player with no underlying conditions having any serious illness is very low. And they have daily access to private medical care far better than most people, so it would be caught early and treated fast if needed. They are in a much safer position than almost anyone in the country and many people are at work now, more will be come June.

There will not be a zero risk situation in June. But there will not be zero risk situation in August / September either. At some point, they will assess the risk, deem it acceptable, get Government approval, and football will start again. June seems likely to me. It may be later.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Premier League: Under 45-minute halves an option, says PFA chief Gordon Taylor - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52542756

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Gordon Taylor has always been a tit. Now he's an overpaid tit in an ivory tower with about as much of a feel for football, football players and football supporters as that other tit, Sepp Blatter. They can both do one as far as I'm concerned. Bring on the Kitson. And that Qatar travesty should be the next joke to be binned.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Yes. But the chances of a young healthy player with no underlying conditions having any serious illness is very low. And they have daily access to private medical care far better than most people, so it would be caught early and treated fast if needed. They are in a much safer position than almost anyone in the country and many people are at work now, more will be come June.

There will not be a zero risk situation in June. But there will not be zero risk situation in August / September either. At some point, they will assess the risk, deem it acceptable, get Government approval, and football will start again. June seems likely to me. It may be later.

Top quality satire.

1. Unfortunately 'very low' is not low enough. And it isn't just the players, it is the people with whom they will come into contact. Let's imagine a top star has a pregnant wife who happens to be asthmatic. Try telling that top start to isolate from his wife for a few weeks to finish he season. If it were me I'd tell the club, and the eff A, to eff off.

2. There is no treatment. Not even in the most expensive hospitals. That's why we are in lockdown.

3. October at the earliest. Provided we are sure it won't all kick off again. My money is on end of January,

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

With the German league getting the green light for may 15. Beginning to worry that the prem reboot really will happen.

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Bloke on R5 earlier today said German league won't restart till August. I'll believe it when I see it. And then I probably still won't believe it. And then they'll have to call it all off again owing to players getting sick, and I'll know I was right to not believe it.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Top quality satire.

1. Unfortunately 'very low' is not low enough. And it isn't just the players, it is the people with whom they will come into contact. Let's imagine a top star has a pregnant wife who happens to be asthmatic. Try telling that top start to isolate from his wife for a few weeks to finish he season. If it were me I'd tell the club, and the eff A, to eff off.

2. There is no treatment. Not even in the most expensive hospitals. That's why we are in lockdown.

3. October at the earliest. Provided we are sure it won't all kick off again. My money is on end of January,

Many people are at work already, and more will be come June. On what basis are you deeming footballers incapable of doing what many of the rest of the population is expected to?

 

[Grombleton]

Many people are at work already, and more will be come June. On what basis are you deeming footballers incapable of doing what many of the rest of the population is expected to?

Because it's easier to enforce certain distancing rules on many different workplaces than it is for a load of sweaty footballers in a crowded penalty box at a corner?

 

[Weststander]

Yes. But the chances of a young healthy player with no underlying conditions having any serious illness is very low. And they have daily access to private medical care far better than most people, so it would be caught early and treated fast if needed. They are in a much safer position than almost anyone in the country and many people are at work now, more will be come June.

There will not be a zero risk situation in June. But there will not be zero risk situation in August / September either. At some point, they will assess the risk, deem it acceptable, get Government approval, and football will start again. June seems likely to me. It may be later.

Good post. That was made clear on 5live last night, this summer won't act as a watershed for a safer PL, the risks from covid-19 will be pretty much the same whether it be June or September. At least two football seasons are going to be severely affected in every way.

 

[Weststander]

I listened to the interview on Today this morning with Gordon Taylor.

Two points came out of it:

Taylor really is an arse.

The BBC journo (I think it was Gary Richardson?) gave him such an easy ride - there are so many questions that the head of the player's union should be asked - yet he failed miserably.

Taylor trying to justify his £2.2m salary, could only come up with a ludicrous idea.

The covid-19 risks will be there with 30 or 45 minute halves, his brainless idea was just noise.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Because it's easier to enforce certain distancing rules on many different workplaces than it is for a load of sweaty footballers in a crowded penalty box at a corner?

The Government requirement is just to maintain a 2 metre distance where possible-



In many cases it's not possible to keep 2 metres apart so people just get on with it. The 2 metre guide is being questioned in any case, in some countries it's 1 metre etc.

Footballers are in a safer position than most people if they get regular tests and medical attention. Many people are working without those benefits and many people cannot maintain 2 metre distance.

Come June when more are at work, on trains, tubes , buses etc. I don't think footballers will be at much greater risk than many others in society.

It looks like the risk will be low come June. And once it is that low, it won't be proportionately much different in July, August, September etc. If that is the case, there will be no logical reason to delay it any further on safety grounds. The reduction in risk would be small, and the financial cost could be very large.

For the same reason, everyone will have to get back to work when it is a low level risk, as further delay will not be justifiable, and continued extension of furlough payments would incur a huge cost.

 

[Poyningsgull]

Many people are at work already, and more will be come June. On what basis are you deeming footballers incapable of doing what many of the rest of the population is expected to?

Most people at work do not attempt a crashing tackle on the workmates or jump on them when they are clean through to the coffee machine.
Your argument is totally flawed as per the various replies above.

 

[dwayne]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...c28c84-8ecb-11ea-9322-a29e75effc93_story.html

Wow whole squad of German second division team in isolation now !!

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[Grombleton]

Most people at work do not attempt a crashing tackle on the workmates or jump on them when they are clean through to the coffee machine.

To be fair, they do in my workplace. It's not allowed, but we do.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Most people at work do not attempt a crashing tackle on the workmates or jump on them when they are clean through to the coffee machine.
Your argument is totally flawed as per the various replies above.

Not sure it is, but each to their own.

It does seem pretty clear that the risk situation in June is likely to be similar to July, August, September etc. Many people on here seem to think if they scrap 19/20, the next season will be ok to start. I'm not clear what that is based on.

My position is I think it is likely to re-start in June, and many people will be back at work, school etc by then.

If there is such a worry about footballers, at what point do people think they will be less worried? i.e. if we get to a point that we're back at work, shops, pubs etc open, schools open, do you still want to keep footballers at home because you think they are at such great risk on a football field? If so I can't really see an end to your worries.

The idea of a long-term cancellation of most sports whilst we all go back to work and largely back to normal does not sound feasible, to me.

If August / Sept is seen as feasible, June may be a similar situation in safety terms so is also feasible. If people are waiting for a zero-risk situation, I do not think that is a realistic mindset.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Many people are at work already, and more will be come June. On what basis are you deeming footballers incapable of doing what many of the rest of the population is expected to?

Plenty of people are at work at the mo, certainly. Key workers. Footballers aren't key workers.

As for what will happen and when, my expectation is that the perception that Covid is a contageous and lethal disease won't change until it becomes less contageous (it won't unless it mutates to a more fragile form, counter to the laws of genetics) or less lethal (which can happen by mutation and is the secet of the common cold, but without a favourable mutation will require the services of a vaccine), or it transpires C-19 a seasonal virus (which I am assured is not the way of Covid viruses).

What do you imagine is going to change to make our current arrangents no longer necessary?