swindonseagull
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CHINA.......virus free?? what planet do you live on?
BTW Falklands is virus free maybe the games could be played in Port Stanley or on the sports pitches at Mount Pleasant Airfield..
Your idea is frankly ridiculous.
[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season
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CHINA.......virus free?? what planet do you live on?
BTW Falklands is virus free maybe the games could be played in Port Stanley or on the sports pitches at Mount Pleasant Airfield..
Your idea is frankly ridiculous.
In The Athletic it was stated that some clubs want to end the season now "regardless of the consequences".
Not all clubs are reportedly desperate to play on.
I take it neither of you have really thought this through!!!
EPL clubs might just survive if players take a massive cut, which they could do and still be very comfortably off. Possibly most championship players could survive a year with no income but League One and League Two would see many clubs go under as their players don't earn a fortune.
Kalimantan Gull
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Well obviously there will have to be compromises made by all sides. What you are describing is a few teams sticking their heels in and being difficult, but in reality I am sure that all the leagues in Europe will come together and agree a sensible way of resolving this to complete the season if at all possible.
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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What happens to clubs finances if games are played behind closed doors due to this virus? - would they be insured against this and able to get money or do they lose more money staging it than not staging it?
Do they get an insurance payout if the season is abandoned?
Players taking pay freezes / cuts whilst this delay takes place suggests that there is no insurance cover for delays to fixtures for incidents like this, so surely the longer the uncertainty goes on, the harder it will be for clubs to survive as they may only be able to claim once either the decision to play behind closed doors or to abandon the season is taken
What about next season, surely their insurance conditions will be affected or their premiums increased massively as the risk to insurers is so high that they could be forced to pay out then too. Clubs with massive debts, no income and big bills may struggle to get cover (if it exists)
A lot of clubs (especially down the footballing pyramid) rely heavily on matchday income to survive, and with a lot of clubs in a precarious financial position before this outbreak, how many will make it if this rumbles on well into when next season was due to take place?
Do they get an insurance payout if the season is abandoned?
Players taking pay freezes / cuts whilst this delay takes place suggests that there is no insurance cover for delays to fixtures for incidents like this, so surely the longer the uncertainty goes on, the harder it will be for clubs to survive as they may only be able to claim once either the decision to play behind closed doors or to abandon the season is taken
What about next season, surely their insurance conditions will be affected or their premiums increased massively as the risk to insurers is so high that they could be forced to pay out then too. Clubs with massive debts, no income and big bills may struggle to get cover (if it exists)
A lot of clubs (especially down the footballing pyramid) rely heavily on matchday income to survive, and with a lot of clubs in a precarious financial position before this outbreak, how many will make it if this rumbles on well into when next season was due to take place?
nwgull
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Absolutely not, unless this pandemic continues for another 11 months with no medical intervention. Apart from the huge financial issues that would cause loads of clubs throughout the leagues, an entire calendar year without football would be horrible, even more so when we'd then only play 9 games and have another 3 month break.
Worried Man Blues
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Albion Dan
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Yes any club in a relegation zone probably.
Weststander
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My wild guess:
Norwich
Villa
Bmuff
Brighton
Watford
West Ham
Everton
Probably wanting results expunged also, with car crash seasons for the high-spending latter two.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Whatever happens that is going to be the case. With the scenario I suggested at least there would be some games next season which could help keep clubs afloat. I can't see any way we can finish this season and then have a full season of football next year. Many clubs, like many businesses, will go to the wall, unless there is help from the government to save them.
They'll probably also need to fit in a week off for an international friendly, as well.
Neville's Breakfast
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If the football industry is not prepared to bail out fellow clubs then I don’t see why the taxpayer should do it.
I'd call that an extremely poor analogy...
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kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Fair enough point. Some clubs will definitely need bailing out though, that's for sure.
An increasing number will be moving to this, I believe, as football's original gung-ho keep-right-on-to-the-end-of-the-road we'll-fight-them-on-the-beaches and finish the season come what may, behind-closed-doors-with-gas-masks on attitude crumbles as reality clicks in..
I have been completely bemused over the past three weeks or so, as countless “pundits” on the likes of 5Live spout off about finishing the season in May or June or July. It’s like they are completely ignoring the NEWS!! Thousands of people are dying of this thing, and yet these so-called experts think we can resume the season, and fit it in before the next season is due to start.
The same people are taking about “preserving the integrity of the competition”, which they seem to think can be achieved by playing games behind closed doors, or as some sort of mini tournament!!
The only way you preserve the competition’s “integrity” is to ensure the remaining games are played under the same conditions as the first part of the season....and to do so you need to wait until the virus is more or less eradicated. Certainly you need to wait until the players themselves can play football safely. That will all take MONTHS.
The only realistic option is to call an end to this season, tell the players to take a break, and reconvene when football can be played safely in a reasonably normal environment - ie, with crowds present.
We’re probably looking at somewhere around September at the earliest. I’d be amazed if we saw a PL match before then.
The same people are taking about “preserving the integrity of the competition”, which they seem to think can be achieved by playing games behind closed doors, or as some sort of mini tournament!!
The only way you preserve the competition’s “integrity” is to ensure the remaining games are played under the same conditions as the first part of the season....and to do so you need to wait until the virus is more or less eradicated. Certainly you need to wait until the players themselves can play football safely. That will all take MONTHS.
The only realistic option is to call an end to this season, tell the players to take a break, and reconvene when football can be played safely in a reasonably normal environment - ie, with crowds present.
We’re probably looking at somewhere around September at the earliest. I’d be amazed if we saw a PL match before then.
jevs
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The sensible thing to do (probably been mentioned many times) would be to award Liverpool the title, no relegation from all divisions, first two to be promoted from each league resulting in 22 in the Prem....to be reduced over the next 2 years.
However
If they voided the season now and Liverpool weren't awarded the title and Leeds didn't get promoted.....I will laugh my fecking ar$e off for the rest of my life. It'll never happen though.
However
If they voided the season now and Liverpool weren't awarded the title and Leeds didn't get promoted.....I will laugh my fecking ar$e off for the rest of my life. It'll never happen though.
Awarding any promotions based on current positions makes no more sense than relegating teams at the bottom. 9 games can change a lot and there’s often a last minute surprise.
Unless the games can be played, I can’t see how anything can be decided on anyone changing divisions.
As time moves on, there seems less and less logic to trying to preserve the 19-20 season. It’s very harsh on Liverpool, who are about the only team remotely close to being nailed on to win anything, but it’s just an unfortunate consequence of the situation in which there are far more important things to worry about than football.