[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[darkwolf666]

PS, I may be a bit of a **** sometimes, but I doubt very much that I ever sound like Wayne Rooney

No, but I've heard you could pass for him in the dark!!!

 

[Pavilionaire]

Unfortunately that is what modern football has become, it's an industry and a business as much as a sport. One where the average weekly wage for a player is over £61,000 per week. That's a total weekly wage bill for PL clubs of over £28m for players alone let alone all the backroom staff/CEO's etc, or given 8 weeks currently without games that's £225m in wages paid out to players so far with the income pretty much having dried up. I think from that persepctive as a business alone I can understand the keenness to get games back being played particularly given the reluctance to date of footballers to take any pay cut.

It makes you realise that this is all about player wages. Imagine if there was a salary cap of, say, £75K a week - every one of the Prem sides could afford to keep their best players, the league would therefore be much more competitive, fans would have more affordable season tickets and better facilities and clubs would be able to actually save a bit of money.

Absolute dreamland, of course, but the greed of footballers, their agents and their unions have killed the sport as we know it.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

627 New Deaths

3403 New Cases

Death toll rises to 32692

More players voicing their concerns about Project Restart.

Awaits new spike in the next couple of weeks, everybody back in lockdown..

600+



It was supposed to be going down... and we're now 2-3 weeks away from Friday's street parties spike.


Back to the old slogan, Boris.

 

[neilbard]

600+



It was supposed to be going down, and were 2-3 weeks away from Friday's street parties spike.

It's really worrying.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

600+



It was supposed to be going down... and we're now 2-3 weeks away from Friday's street parties spike.


Back to the old slogan, Boris.

It's really worrying.

Terrible though the figures are and I agree there may be a problem in a week or two, but this is after a bank holiday weekend and the past two days figures have been lower due to that. I would not be surprised if tomorrow we see a fair fall. Look at the overall trend, not one day in isolation, the whole time Tuesday's figures have spiked.

 

[drew]

It makes you realise that this is all about player wages. Imagine if there was a salary cap of, say, £75K a week - every one of the Prem sides could afford to keep their best players, the league would therefore be much more competitive, fans would have more affordable season tickets and better facilities and clubs would be able to actually save a bit of money.

Absolute dreamland, of course, but the greed of footballers, their agents and their unions have killed the sport as we know it.

But the best players would then go where the money is, and who can blame them. So the attraction of the EPL is diminished to broadcasters and they will look elsewhere at other leagues.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Terrible though the figures are and I agree there may be a problem in a week or two, but this is after a bank holiday weekend and the past two days figures have been lower due to that. I would not be surprised if tomorrow we see a fair fall. Look at the overall trend, not one day in isolation, the whole time Tuesday's figures have spiked.

Good point, it may settle down again.

 

[jimhigham]

We can no more demand our footballers get on the pitch than we can demand our bands to do gigs. In fact, of all our entertainers, footballers and rugby players are probably the worst placed in the 'lets get them back to work' stakes. No matter how much we want it (I am one of those who really misses his footy).

I’m actually missing the gigs more than the footy. I do love a good mosh and you can’t really do much of that at the match these days. Even on the North Stand. #BadFan

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Terrible though the figures are and I agree there may be a problem in a week or two, but this is after a bank holiday weekend and the past two days figures have been lower due to that. I would not be surprised if tomorrow we see a fair fall. Look at the overall trend, not one day in isolation, the whole time Tuesday's figures have spiked.

You are right, Tuesday has always seen the highest number of reported deaths due to the delays in reporting over a weekend, even taking into account the bank holiday Friday we do see a slight drop from last Tuesday, 627 deaths vs 693. Still needs to fall considerably more before we should be thinking about football and other entertainment re-starting. Obviously we don't know what the figures for the start of June will be but I can certainly understand the players reluctance to return to playing at this time.

 

[darkwolf666]

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It was supposed to be going down... and we're now 2-3 weeks away from Friday's street parties spike.


Back to the old slogan, Boris.

To be fair, I'm a doom and gloom merchant, but I don't think you can take too much notice of today's figure, this is Bank Holiday weekend catch up - as for 4 weeks time, well that will be interesting!

 

[Badger Boy]

To be fair, I'm a doom and gloom merchant

You're not the only one in this thread. Contributing is pointless at the moment because the doom and gloomers just drown out everything else with their whine. Football will return, and so it should. The leagues and clubs are discussing how it will be, which is how it should be. Just wait and let them decide.

Also, Raheem Sterling and Danny Rose are mouthpieces who add no value to the discussion but can always be relied on to shout their mouths off. They've got every right to voice their concerns and I have every right to think them both egotistic and completely divorced from the reality of the world.

 

[Weststander]

Restarting football behind closed doors will do absolutely nothing 'for my morale'.

Indeed. It will bring back the demoralising stress that most Villa, Brighton and Norwich fans faced this January and February.

This respite from the relegation threat and endless months of never winning games of football, has been great for mental wellbeing round these parts, Norfolk and a chunk of the West Midlands.

 

[darkwolf666]

You're not the only one in this thread. Contributing is pointless at the moment because the doom and gloomers just drown out everything else with their whine. Football will return, and so it should. The leagues and clubs are discussing how it will be, which is how it should be. Just wait and let them decide.

Also, Raheem Sterling and Danny Rose are mouthpieces who add no value to the discussion but can always be relied on to shout their mouths off. They've got every right to voice their concerns and I have every right to think them both egotistic and completely divorced from the reality of the world.

That's ok then, you don't like then, so they should potentially risk their or someone else's life for that very valid reason!

Maybe the whine on here is a majority view, I don't know, but everyone has a right to be heard...

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

You're not the only one in this thread. Contributing is pointless at the moment because the doom and gloomers just drown out everything else with their whine. Football will return, and so it should. The leagues and clubs are discussing how it will be, which is how it should be. Just wait and let them decide.

Also, Raheem Sterling and Danny Rose are mouthpieces who add no value to the discussion but can always be relied on to shout their mouths off. They've got every right to voice their concerns and I have every right to think them both egotistic and completely divorced from the reality of the world.

Many thousands have died and people who are worried are 'whining'. I am not a fan of Sterling nor Rose but on this, I am fully behind them. Just accept you are in the minority and maybe take a leaf from your book and stop 'whining' when others don't agree with your less popular view.

 

[jessiejames]

I would not equate a footballer (especially EPL) with a mental health practitioner. Why? One is an entertainer, and the other is, er, a mental health professional

If that still doesn't have traction for you, consider what doctors, nurses, and other health practitioners do. They contribute directly to the health of individuals. What could we call them? What about 'key worker'? That has a ring to it.

There is scope for much discussion about what constitutes 'key'. That's not for here.

So what should be the rules for key workers? Should they be forced to work? Ironically lots of them would rather die than not work. I salute the likes of [MENTION=5076]Bevendean Hillbilly[/MENTION], recently of this parish, and his heroic post on here some weeks ago. That's a key worker, and we should be crawling over broken glass to ensure they are protected and, dare I say it, remunerated. No, they should not be forced to work but in this country we come into our own in times of need, and coercion isn't needed.

So what about non key workers? Should they be forced to work? Now it is head wobble time. Non key workers were, up to the new 'be alart' rubric required to stay at home to reduce the risk of spread. How can we go from that to naming and shaming and mocking those (like Rose) who are not overly keen on going back to work having been forbidden to work up till a few days ago.

And so, the elephant in the room.....footballers are not and never will be key workers. They should stay at home and practice social distancing until the rest of us can have our friends round, go to our pub and, FFS, watch footballers play football. . . . .

.....OK, maybe we could try to make it safer for them so that could play for our entertainment. National morale and all that. But it has to be safe for them. And they have to be invited to say whether they agree with the plans or not.

We can no more demand our footballers get on the pitch than we can demand our bands to do gigs. In fact, of all our entertainers, footballers and rugby players are probably the worst placed in the 'lets get them back to work' stakes. No matter how much we want it (I am one of those who really misses his footy).

Anyway

My company are registered as key workers, when we were told about the possibility of lockdown, we were asked if we were prepared to work, we all said yes to start with, when lockdown started 6 were advised not to work due to underlying health problems. We were asked again about being prepared to work, we all said yes, since lockdown we have had a total of 14 staff furloughed, due to not being needed, and 7 sent home at different periods due to having symptoms. The reason I'm putting this in is that I believe that my job role is that of a key worker, but a footballer definitely not. Some of the places that I go to should not be open but they still are though.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Football will return, and so it should. The leagues and clubs are discussing how it will be, which is how it should be. Just wait and let them decide.

Nope, can't have that.

Football should return when safe, as advised by experts, not when the money men need their piggy banks filling.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

My company are registered as key workers, when we were told about the possibility of lockdown, we were asked if we were prepared to work, we all said yes to start with, when lockdown started 6 were advised not to work due to underlying health problems. We were asked again about being prepared to work, we all said yes, since lockdown we have had a total of 14 staff furloughed, due to not being needed, and 7 sent home at different periods due to having symptoms. The reason I'm putting this in is that I believe that my job role is that of a key worker, but a footballer definitely not. Some of the places that I go to should not be open but they still are though.

Agree.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Many thousands have died and people who are worried are 'whining'. I am not a fan of Sterling nor Rose but on this, I am fully behind them. Just accept you are in the minority and maybe take a leaf from your book and stop 'whining' when others don't agree with your less popular view.

It shows how broken football is in this country when there are owners, administrators and fans who want football back regardless of the public health cost, during a global pandemic. His view is in line with the people who run our game.

 

[Springal]

You're not the only one in this thread. Contributing is pointless at the moment because the doom and gloomers just drown out everything else with their whine. Football will return, and so it should. The leagues and clubs are discussing how it will be, which is how it should be. Just wait and let them decide.

Also, Raheem Sterling and Danny Rose are mouthpieces who add no value to the discussion but can always be relied on to shout their mouths off. They've got every right to voice their concerns and I have every right to think them both egotistic and completely divorced from the reality of the world.

Don’t forget to add Glenn Murray to the list

 

[LamieRobertson]

Nope, can't have that.

Football should return when safe, as advised by experts, not when the money men need their piggy banks filling.

Tony Bloom?