[Football] Premier League / Football League attempts to finish the season

[vegster]

I disagree. Testing is not 100 % reliable. Some negative testing is unreliable. Also you would need to be testing every day to ensure players did not pick up the virus after their last test. What about the hundreds of back room staff needed to organize a match even if played behind closed doors ? Testing is not the panacea you think.

This, especially the number of BAME players in the Premiership. I would hate to have to go up for a corner in a sweaty, wheezing and jostling 6 yard box. It's going to be fairly impossible to organise reliable testing and put out a genuine competitive squad as at different times clubs could have key players self isolating or ill. Imagine Liverpool losing Salah, Mane and Firminho 24 hours before a fixture ? it would make a joke of the match.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...tage-bottom-six-neutral-grounds-a9505261.html

Useful. Anything else from last week, to add?

 

[vegster]

8 clubs are against neutral grounds according to the BBC.

Love how Brighton has the Premier League on strings

I can't see how we can end this season in safety, without losing players or home advantage and it being a level playing field... excuse the pun..... The league should stand as it is, no relegation, no promotion.

 

[Acker79]

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[Change at Barnham]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...tage-bottom-six-neutral-grounds-a9505261.html

"The bottom six would again re-iterate it’s just about fairness, and sporting integrity, and that such massive outcomes should not be so conditioned by such massive sudden changes to the parameters of play."

I agree with the author about the point above.
Every team in the Premier League has an agenda based on their current league position. It is a simple fact.
If Brighton, Palace, Sheffield United or Liverpool were in any of the other teams position they would take an alternative stance.

The good thing is that Paul Barber has been totally honest and transparent about the stance Brighton have taken. This honesty is something that has drawn much praise from journalists and the wider football community.

Money is at the heart of the whole problem. It's not until a change of risk and reward happens that there will ever be an alternative scenario to the divided views that are currently being voiced.

 

[Seasider78]

Apparently Gov green light been given for a 1st June start


https://apple.news/Am2VjTvgnTEuWUdS58Wyh7w

 

[sparkie]

"The bottom six would again re-iterate it’s just about fairness, and sporting integrity, and that such massive outcomes should not be so conditioned by such massive sudden changes to the parameters of play."

I agree with the author about the point above.
Every team in the Premier League has an agenda based on their current league position. It is a simple fact.
If Brighton, Palace, Sheffield United or Liverpool were in any of the other teams position they would take an alternative stance.

The good thing is that Paul Barber has been totally honest and transparent about the stance Brighton have taken. This honesty is something that has drawn much praise from journalists and the wider football community.

Money is at the heart of the whole problem. It's not until a change of risk and reward happens that there will ever be an alternative scenario to the divided views that are currently being voiced.

If Barber gets so much praise it is a shame that some bad apple journalists keep twisting his words.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

Yes the plan is sporting events permitted from 1 June which green-lights the Prem re-start in theory-



https://assets.publishing.service.g..._HMG_C19_Recovery_FINAL_110520_v2_WEB__1_.pdf

 

[Gwylan]

Apparently Gov green light been given for a 1st June start


https://apple.news/Am2VjTvgnTEuWUdS58Wyh7w

From 1 June - that could mean July of course.

I still think the government is giving a mixed message here: how can it be right that the Manchester Utd or Liverpool can play a football match but the Old Bufferians cricket team can't?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...tage-bottom-six-neutral-grounds-a9505261.html

Such a badly written piece.

 

[Yoda]

We'd LOVE an arrangement to end the season that involved us staying up. But if you think the criticism we're getting now is bad...

But the fact that there are a few and we're against them as well (but involve the season ending now) shows it's not just about us staying up, but completing it in a fair, safe, and equal manner.

 

[Yoda]

Yes the plan is sporting events permitted from 1 June which green-lights the Prem re-start in theory-

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So how does training as a team for the start work with Step 1/. You can play sports, but only with people from your own household?

 

[Bob!]

Yes the plan is sporting events permitted from 1 June which green-lights the Prem re-start in theory-

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From 1 June - that could mean July of course.

I still think the government is giving a mixed message here: how can it be right that the Manchester Utd or Liverpool can play a football match but the Old Bufferians cricket team can't?

Presumably though, until 1 June (at the earliest), players will not be allowed to train together as per current Government guidelines.

So you would need a few weeks for 'pre-season' training once those guidelines are amended.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

So even if the season restarts, it will have been THREE MONTHS since the last ball was kicked.

How on Earth is that going to feel like the same season, not to mention all the rest of the changes that are going to be made.

Complete balderdash.

 

[ForestRowSeagull]

As highlighted above, it massively depends if they get the nod to train in groups before that time. If not, its going to be incredibly tight.

 

[Marty___Mcfly]

As highlighted above, it massively depends if they get the nod to train in groups before that time. If not, its going to be incredibly tight.

I think they've basically got 2 weeks to get the plan in place. 3 weeks training prior to the start of the season (mooted as 12 June) would mean training needs to start by 22 May. UEFA said all plans to conclude national competitions should be submitted to them by 25 May.

 

[sparkie]

So even if the season restarts, it will have been THREE MONTHS since the last ball was kicked.

How on Earth is that going to feel like the same season, not to mention all the rest of the changes that are going to be made.

Complete balderdash.

It doesn't feel like the same season.

It is a 9 game, handicapped mini tournament.

 

[crodonilson]

So even if the season restarts, it will have been THREE MONTHS since the last ball was kicked.

How on Earth is that going to feel like the same season, not to mention all the rest of the changes that are going to be made.

Complete balderdash.

There's going to be the season after next with the Qater running halfway through it, granted not 3 months but certainly an extended period so a precedent has been set there really.

 

[crodonilson]

From 1 June - that could mean July of course.

I still think the government is giving a mixed message here: how can it be right that the Manchester Utd or Liverpool can play a football match but the Old Bufferians cricket team can't?

Elite level sports are an industry, so the PL within that all contrubute to the economy directly and indirectly. This new government paper is essentially all about trying to get the country and economy up and running again whilst trying to mitigate the number of new infections. Also the level of testing and safeguarding in attempting to get elite sports up and running would be unsustainable to the rest of society in time and financial cost, they will be at far lower risk of infecting each other than other amateur level sports.

 

[blue-shifted]

So even if the season restarts, it will have been THREE MONTHS since the last ball was kicked.

How on Earth is that going to feel like the same season, not to mention all the rest of the changes that are going to be made.

Complete balderdash.

If, and it's a colossal if, they manage to get this back on, there will be significant resistance from fans, on grounds of either public health, empty stadia or rule changes.

However, I predict this resistance will seriously peel away once the action has started, the changes have been got used to and there's wins / losses, promotion / relegation at stake. My guess is that TV viewing figures will be very healthy and this board will be rammed with threads on player ratings, ppg needed, players being lambasted, transfer rumours and all the normal stuff.

Football is a powerful drug and people want normality, (or an approximation of).