[Albion] Premier League 4-6/11/23

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Should Sterling have been booked for diving therefore no penalty as this happened first?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Glenn and Eileen are spot on, not a red for me, got the ball

 

[AmexRuislip]

 

[Durlston]

The Met Police are going to have a difficult three hours from now. Couldn't happen to a nicer force.

 

[AlexBH]

Think the Caicedo goal should’ve stood. If Rashford dummying and running over the ball in the build up to a Man U goal is ruled ok, how is a player very marginally offside who doesn’t touch the ball on the edge of the penalty area interfering with play. Decisions are all over the place these days.

 

[jcdenton08]

Should Sterling have been booked for diving therefore no penalty as this happened first?

Yes, but only if the referee caught it in real time. Can’t retroactively give yellows via VAR. as the offence of simulation is an automatic yellow card, VAR couldn’t intervene.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

That would just be 2 minutes added then. Added time starts at 45.

You can't add to added that doesn't happen in added time.

But if the game is delayed going into injury time then the ref should have included that delay onto the end of the already announced added time. So if the game is due to have 12 mins added on but didn't restart until the 47th min the injury time shouldn't have ended until the 59th min but the ref blew at 57 meaning he didn't add any extra time for further delays in injury time.

 

[Weststander]

Not often said I know but I think Oliver has done a really good job here, very difficult game to referee.

Udogie should’ve seen red, Romero earlier too.

 

[indy3050]

Had £5 on James to see red.

 

[jcdenton08]

But if the game is delayed going into injury time then the ref should have included that delay onto the end of already added time. So if the game didn't restart until the 47th min the injury time shouldn't have ended until the 59th min but the ref blew at 57 meaning he didn't add any extra time for further delays in injury time.

Absolutely this, and this is the correct protocol to follow (at least, according to Sussex FA)

 

[The Colonel]

Yes, but only if the referee caught it in real time. Can’t retroactively give yellows via VAR. as the offence of simulation is an automatic yellow card, VAR couldn’t intervene.

What would happen if VAR checked the Sterling incident as they believed it could have been a penalty. If they'd then realised he dived, surely play would have restarted with a Spurs free kick and no Romero red?

 

[The Wizard]

Udogie should’ve seen red, Romero earlier too.

Referee can’t have eyes in the back of his head for the earlier Romero one and I personally think the Udogie one was correct, but I thought the same about the Havertz challenge, dangerous tackles but thankfully the players on the receiving end saw them coming.

 

[Acker79]

Should Sterling have been booked for diving therefore no penalty as this happened first?

Yes, but only if the referee caught it in real time. Can’t retroactively give yellows via VAR. as the offence of simulation is an automatic yellow card, VAR couldn’t intervene.

According to the VAR FAQ on the EPL WWW:

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Will VAR be used for diving?​

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Only for incidents in the four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity.​

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In the instance where the on-field referee has awarded a penalty but the VAR has determined that it was an act of simulation, the penalty award will be overturned and the offending player will be shown a yellow card.​

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The FA's retrospective disciplinary process remains for other incidents not captured by the match officials or VAR.​

VAR - Frequently Asked Questions

Find out how Video Assistant Referees assist on-field officials

www.premierleague.com

So no for this incident, because it wasn't ruled a foul on Sterling.

 

[indy3050]

That stadium looks fantastic at night

 

[jcdenton08]

What would happen if VAR checked the Sterling incident as they believed it could have been a penalty. If they'd then realised he dived, surely play would have restarted with a Spurs free kick and no Romero red?

Nope - play would be reinstated from the state in which it was left before the VAR check. In this case, offside. VAR can overrule a penalty given for simulation, but it can’t then book the offending player. The decision would be to play on from the “current state of play”.

 

[jcdenton08]

According to the VAR FAQ on the EPL WWW:

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Will VAR be used for diving?​

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Only for incidents in the four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity.​

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​

In the instance where the on-field referee has awarded a penalty but the VAR has determined that it was an act of simulation, the penalty award will be overturned and the offending player will be shown a yellow card.​

​

​

The FA's retrospective disciplinary process remains for other incidents not captured by the match officials or VAR.​

VAR - Frequently Asked Questions

Find out how Video Assistant Referees assist on-field officials

www.premierleague.com

So no for this incident, because it wasn't ruled a foul on Sterling.

Precisely

 

[Justice]

It seems acceptable this season to lead with the elbow and smash it into the opponent face.

 

[dazzer6666]

Udogie should’ve seen red, Romero earlier too.

No chance Oliver would have seen the Romero kick, that’s not down to him.

 

[Deleted member 37369]

What would happen if VAR checked the Sterling incident as they believed it could have been a penalty. If they'd then realised he dived, surely play would have restarted with a Spurs free kick and no Romero red?

They did check the Sterling incident for a penalty first.

 

[jcdenton08]

It seems acceptable this season to lead with the elbow and smash it into the opponent face.

This was a blatant red card. Completely unnecessary and VAR even looked it and said “this is fine”. Bonkers match