Dirty Dave
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Several Forest fans 'spill' on to the pitch after they take the lead against Derby
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Fair play to Gerrard. Quietly eyeballing the Everton fans giving him pellets at half time with the faintest smirk. Well played.
Same applies to the players no need for celebrations to be DIRECTED at home supporters. Wasn’t just a celebration, Cash was giving it some repeatedly to the fans, so your analogy would be a women in a miniskirt flashing her tits at the fans then being offending they sing get your tits out…
Fair play to Gerrard. Quietly eyeballing the Everton fans giving him pelters at half time with the faintest smirk. Well played.
Same applies to the players no need for celebrations to be DIRECTED at home supporters. Wasn’t just a celebration, Cash was giving it some repeatedly to the fans, so your analogy would be a women in a miniskirt flashing her tits at the fans then being offending they sing get your tits out…
Same applies to the players no need for celebrations to be DIRECTED at home supporters. Wasn’t just a celebration, Cash was giving it some repeatedly to the fans, so your analogy would be a women in a miniskirt flashing her tits at the fans then being offending they sing get your tits out…
Whilst wearing a miniskirt and flashing his tits at them.
Keep digging.
There’s no excuse for it. None.
No digging. I can hold two contrasting opinions at the same time, something several seem incapable of, maybe it’s too lateral.
1. Absolutely no excuse for violence of bottle throwing and should be subject to full force of law and a ban.
2. Absolutely unnecessary for players to goad and incite opposing fans.
I can hold both those opinions simultaneously.
As for 2. I can quite happily watch players being dicks in front of me as the Chelsea players were Tuesday. But I can’t have a drink with a top on because there will always be 1 **** in 30k who’ll throw something.
So we’ll keep getting more and more draconian rules for the 1 **** in 30k rather than ask 11 players to celebrate a bit more respectfully.
I was enraged a few years back at Robertson for Liverpool who shouted at the family stand to '**** off' right at hordes of small children etc. Very poor behaviour from the player imo but although I was maddened, I shouted back etc etc as many others did. At no point was I tempted to reach for my bottle, complete with bottle top, in order to throw it at him although he was near enough to hit. Had I, I would have expected a lengthy or lifetime ban and rightly so as I would have had NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER to act that way.
Just because Cash was being a bit of a prick, it doesn't give anyone the right to act violently - remove the pantomime and a lot of football is sanitised further and less worthwhile as a spectacle.
In that I agree with your point but when has a player actually got injured from a flying bottle? Very very rarely. They are more likely to be injured by thuggish behaviour from their ranks. It is an over-reaction to ban tops.
No digging. I can hold two contrasting opinions at the same time, something several seem incapable of, maybe it’s too lateral.
1. Absolutely no excuse for violence of bottle throwing and should be subject to full force of law and a ban.
2. Absolutely unnecessary for players to goad and incite opposing fans.
I can hold both those opinions simultaneously.
As for 2. I can quite happily watch players being dicks in front of me as the Chelsea players were Tuesday. But I can’t have a drink with a top on because there will always be 1 **** in 30k who’ll throw something.
So we’ll keep getting more and more draconian rules for the 1 **** in 30k rather than ask 11 players to celebrate a bit more respectfully.
Agree it is an overreaction to ban tops, and cause of many mini waterfalls of pop under the seats in the family stand!!
That’s a good effort at defending the indefensible but I’m not buying. Your first post on this began with the old I’m not condoning but chestnut. Now you might define that as holding two thoughts in your head at the same time, making you sound terribly cerebral and all that. However, I’m pretty sure that to most of us it actually just looks like you condoning violence.
I’ve no issue with players celebrating in front of opposition players. Football is theatre. It’s entertainment. Thankfully most of us are grown up enough to take a little ribbing. Part of what made the Palace game such fun was the “banter” with the away fans. They gave us what for when they took the lead and we gave it right back when we equalised.
Other opinions are available. Good day to you, sir!
Having just moved from the family stand to West Upper, I can assure you it's the same there, it's not just the little uns kicking the drinks over.
So we can do away with the bottle top rule, I can take a flask in again, and my son a bottle of water because all is safe as most are grown up enough. Please let Barber know as I’d love to take my own drinks in again.
It seems you like being treated like the 1 in 30,000. Frankly I don’t. I’d never chuck anything, I don’t even manage a ….but you and I are lumped in with the 1 idiot who does.