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[Albion] Premier League 15-17/12/23











SeagullsoverLondon

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Jun 20, 2021
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Asa Hartford had a hole in the heart but played his entire career without any associated issues. Not comparable.
In the (aprothrycal?) words of David Coleman, "Asa Hartford has a whole in his heart, but that doesn't stop him being a whole hearted player"
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Sussex by the Sea
Asa was a real quality player, a joy to watch in full flow.

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Jeremiah

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Mar 15, 2020
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Hove
Credit to Palace, didn’t give up. Aren’t their fans supposed to be very calm and collected when celebrating equalizing goals though?
Was expecting Palace to get something at The Etihad today - its a happy hunting ground for them and Citeh have been poor recently in the League and also without Haaland. Tough game for us on Thursday - I would be happy with a point.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Something isn't right at City, maybe the 114 charges are looking more realistic now

Feels to me like they achieved their ultimate ambition at last in winning the Champions League and now there's a few of them lacking the same level of drive and motivation. It must take a lot out of you to maintain the extraordinarily high levels they did for so long. Same happened to Liverpool after they finally won the title in 2020- they hadn't hit the same heights since, and it's only now they've moved on some of the old names and started to regenerate that they've looked pretty sharp again.

Maybe City needed to refresh that squad a bit more than they have done, bring in new faces who still had things they wanted to achieve. Ferguson was always very good at changing things around when United were on top, rather than waiting for decline to set in.

Let's hope City's recent pathetic-ness doesn't motivate Arsenal any more tomorrow.
 


Javeaseagull

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Feels to me like they achieved their ultimate ambition at last in winning the Champions League and now there's a few of them lacking the same level of drive and motivation. It must take a lot out of you to maintain the extraordinarily high levels they did for so long. Same happened to Liverpool after they finally won the title in 2020- they hadn't hit the same heights since, and it's only now they've moved on some of the old names and started to regenerate that they've looked pretty sharp again.

Maybe City needed to refresh that squad a bit more than they have done, bring in new faces who still had things they wanted to achieve. Ferguson was always very good at changing things around when United were on top, rather than waiting for decline to set in.

Let's hope City's recent pathetic-ness doesn't motivate Arsenal any more tomorrow.
From memory Man Utd only achieved 3 consecutive titles once. A couple of 2 consecutive but City have achieved 4 consecutive titles. It would hardly be surprising if the tank was a little bit empty, running on fumes as they used to say. What worries me is that Sir Alex used to be relaxed about form pre-Xmas saying that the real business starts after that. He was usually right. I also think our genius of a manager has rotated sufficiently to have a good go after Xmas and was very happy to avoid extra fixtures in February.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Watching Burnley - and, to a lesser extent, Everton - it never ceases to amaze me how big lumps of players can kick and bully the opposition one moment and then go down onto the deck acting like they've got a career-ending injury when someone brushes past them the next :lolol:
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
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Ok, like the Fowler nasal plasters and a gallon of Vicks on the shirt I'll buy that cutting holes in brand new socks MAY reduce the chances of cramp.

But good old Trafford is a goalie FFS.
 














Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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I don't know if anyone was watching the post-match analysis, but Sky showed Everton top of the 'goals from corners' and 'goals from set pieces' stats.

That's not an accident. That's down to hard graft on the training ground.
 


dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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I don't know if anyone was watching the post-match analysis, but Sky showed Everton top of the 'goals from corners' and 'goals from set pieces' stats.

That's not an accident. That's down to hard graft on the training ground.
Yes, that season where we just missed out on promotion and Burnley had a few corners near the end and eventually eaqualised from one was particularly painful
 


Javeaseagull

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To expand further (indulge me) I find it extraordinary that players that have won 4 consecutive Premier League titles ending with the Treble of Premier League, FA Cup and European Cup can still have any hunger at all to keep improving. I can only put this down to the genius of Pep Guardiola who is a big admirer of our manager. Roberto is the coming man and he seems to love us! I can only hope and pray.
 


Eric the meek

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To expand further (indulge me) I find it extraordinary that players that have won 4 consecutive Premier League titles ending with the Treble of Premier League, FA Cup and European Cup can still have any hunger at all to keep improving. I can only put this down to the genius of Pep Guardiola who is a big admirer of our manager. Roberto is the coming man and he seems to love us! I can only hope and pray.
It's an interesting question. Perhaps it should be addressed to ex-players who have achieved considerable success (Lineker, Shearer). How do they motivate themselves to keep on delivering towards the end of their careers? The manager has a role to play in the search for approval, but self-motivation must also be a factor. I would suggest there is a third vector. I would imagine the approval of a large crowd can be pretty intoxicating.
 




Motogull

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Sep 16, 2005
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Man City fans are booing !
I'm not surprised. They should be watching their hugely expensive squad destroying small insignificant clubs at home. Citeh always think they just need to turn up to secure 3 points from a Roy Hodgson antifootballing team. And obviously they would blow it to a late penalty.
I wouldn't read too much into palaces form, they're better away than at home
I guess they are still intimidated by the ferocity of the home fans than.
Dyche has already made up the 10 point deduction. Say what you like about him,
Okay. Hes disc-bearded ginger Dalek kunnt.
 


Javeaseagull

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Feb 22, 2014
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It's an interesting question. Perhaps it should be addressed to ex-players who have achieved considerable success (Lineker, Shearer). How do they motivate themselves to keep on delivering towards the end of their careers? The manager has a role to play in the search for approval, but self-motivation must also be a factor. I would suggest there is a third vector. I would imagine the approval of a large crowd can be pretty intoxicating.

Yes I see what you mean. Frank Sinatra springs to mind among others. I just find it extraordinary that players can be motivated to ever achieve more when they have won everything. I read that less than 5% of professional footballers had appeared at Wembley. Obvious motivation there, I believe every footballers dream, worldwide would love to play at Wembley. God knows why, it’s a shilt hole.
 
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