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Poyet question



352

New member
Dec 30, 2012
3
As a non Albion fan, why is there so much negativity against Gus on here?

Consolidation in the Championship was always the priority, right?

New stadium, great support numbers wise, etc

Are things that bad or is it just keyboard warriors?
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
Don't get it myself. Just a very vocal few in my opinion. I am still happy, but this January will make or break our season. We do need to start winning though. We are capable of it, its just not happening.

Who do you support just out of interest?
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,429
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Unfortuately the stadium and crowds have brought RIDICULOUS delusions of our standing in this league. And it doesn't help when we keep going top early on in the season, it just sends some people into overdrive when we inevitably start to slip down to the shocking depths of the top 10. There are a lot of clubs who've dropped down from the Prem with far more resources than us, but none of that counts for bobbins as apparently anything outside of a top 6 finish will be viewed as abject failure by a large proportion of our support.
 


352

New member
Dec 30, 2012
3
Don't get it myself. Just a very vocal few in my opinion. I am still happy, but this January will make or break our season. We do need to start winning though. We are capable of it, its just not happening.

Who do you support just out of interest?


Ipswich
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Unrealistic expectations, because Southampton and Norwich before them had stormed straight in the Prem, that we should do the same although we are doing better than other recently promoted teams from League 1.
Our playing budget is approx 16th in the division but because we have spent over a million on a couple of players, and games are sold out, then fans expect us to be winning every game when this division is so tight that games can hinge on a wicked deflection or just a moment's lack of concentration.

We've had too many draws where they should have been wins so therefore not good for a very vocal set of fans on here. I don't hear the same amount of moans and groans from colleagues and fans around me, or travelling fans when at away grounds. Things could be better and we all hope that they will be but things could also be worse. There is a lack of patience with the players and playing staff from some on here.
 




352

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Dec 30, 2012
3
We have a similar problem. 2 months ago we were the biggest pile of crap you have ever seen, certainly in my many years of watching the club. Mick McCarthy comes in, installs a work ethic which we have not seen for possibly 6 seasons, round pegs in round holes and slowly but surely is moving us up the table.

2 months ago, most ITFC fans would have given a kidney just to stay up. Now there those wanting promotion via the play-offs!

Have to say the football has been a pleasant surprise, we are hard to beat ( cue a loss to you guys today) but actually get it down and play at times. His press conferences have been blunt, to the point but often funny.

MM loves it here and I think he will make us a decent side. Anything else is a bonus in my eyes given the drivel we have experienced under Paul Jewell and Roy Keane ( who is hated like no-one ever before)

I couldn't get tickets for the Amex game but hope to next season. Never had a problem getting any for the games at the athletics track!
 




West Hoathly Seagull

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Aug 26, 2003
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I think because early in both seasons we stormed the league. Therefore we are expected to go the whole season doing the same, or it causes the usual suspects to blow a gasket on here. Visit NSC for long enough and you'd see who the doomsayers are. True, there have been a number of games we should have put sides out of sight, such as Bolton and Nottingham Forest and we do need a forward who can score on a regular basis (Leonardo Ulloa, whom we are trying to sign from Almeria does look the business if we can get him). Also, Gus can be rather stubborn and unwilling to change tactics when his preferred way of playing isn't working (possibly as much down to the payers as him), though when it does work we can muller teams, as you saw today; I think the players must have had the mother of rollockings after Watford. The "look where we've come from" argument can be over used but people do seem to forget that less than four years ago we were staring relegation to League Two in the face. I think you've got a good manager in McCarthy - do be patient with him. Having met him, he's a true gentleman as well.
 


BrianSwan

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Apr 15, 2012
289
I got to say these Brighton fans got their head in the clouds.

It is ridiculous and they need to stop making Gus in/out threads after every game, they are still a top 8 side right now and not much more or less. Dumb to think otherwise just based on crowds which would obviously come from a new ground and being starved for decades.
 


Diego Napier

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Mar 27, 2010
4,416
Unfortuately the stadium and crowds have brought RIDICULOUS delusions of our standing in this league. And it doesn't help when we keep going top early on in the season, it just sends some people into overdrive when we inevitably start to slip down to the shocking depths of the top 10. There are a lot of clubs who've dropped down from the Prem with far more resources than us, but none of that counts for bobbins as apparently anything outside of a top 6 finish will be viewed as abject failure by a large proportion of our support.

Luckily it isn't a large proportion, it just seems it because a few post so frequently and so vociferously!
 




sams dad

I hate Palarse
Feb 7, 2004
6,383
The Hill of The Gun
I got to say these Brighton fans got their head in the clouds.

It is ridiculous and they need to stop making Gus in/out threads after every game, they are still a top 8 side right now and not much more or less. Dumb to think otherwise just based on crowds which would obviously come from a new ground and being starved for decades.

Most of us take the patient view that we are making steady progress towards our goal of Premier League football. Just a few idiots think we should be out of sight at the top of the league, and smashing every team we play. Unfortunately the idiots are currently out-shouting the rest of us.
 


LadySeagull

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Jan 21, 2011
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Most of us take the patient view that we are making steady progress towards our goal of Premier League football. Just a few idiots think we should be out of sight at the top of the league, and smashing every team we play. Unfortunately the idiots are currently out-shouting the rest of us.



This.

I am fed up with the vocal idiot minority on this forum - who are surely all just JCLs who have never followed a team properly before (and still don't!).
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Most of us take the patient view that we are making steady progress towards our goal of Premier League football. Just a few idiots think we should be out of sight at the top of the league, and smashing every team we play. Unfortunately the idiots are currently out-shouting the rest of us.
All of that is correct, but one thing does need to be remembered.

We were top of the league and more importantly we were smashing every team we played.

I can cope with a 'dip' in form, but to turn the team that humiliated Wednesday :lol: to the one that got Saviled by Watford, in 3 months, deserves some questions being asked.

Admittedly the horrendous blinkered rabid abuse is just stupid.
 




Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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We do need a forward who can score on a regular basis (Leonardo Ulloa, whom we are trying to sign from Almeria does look the business if we can get him). Also, Gus can be rather stubborn and unwilling to change tactics when his preferred way of playing isn't working (possibly as much down to the payers as him), though when it does work we can muller teams, as you saw today;

Those are the two biggest issues for me and often linked. We have had too many games where we have bossed it but cannot stick the ball in the back of the net. When you spend £3 on a striker at this level, you expect more. I remember when Southampton spend £1m on Rickie Lambert. People were saying they should get promoted from L1 and Championship. We spend 3 times that and he isn't as prolific. That is in part due to Gus' desire to play one up top. In some ways he reminds me of Sven, purely from the perspective that he doesn't seem to have a plan B. He isn't naive and lacking in quality so it must purely be stubbornness.
 




Frutos

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Those are the two biggest issues for me and often linked. We have had too many games where we have bossed it but cannot stick the ball in the back of the net. When you spend £3 on a striker at this level, you expect more. I remember when Southampton spend £1m on Rickie Lambert. People were saying they should get promoted from L1 and Championship. We spend 3 times that and he isn't as prolific. That is in part due to Gus' desire to play one up top. In some ways he reminds me of Sven, purely from the perspective that he doesn't seem to have a plan B. He isn't naive and lacking in quality so it must purely be stubbornness.

I'd have pretty low expectations for a striker who only cost £3 to be honest.

:wink:
 


Kumquat

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Mar 2, 2009
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5 year plan was the original intention and we're a year and a half in. Says it all. As said, consolidation is what it's all about. I'll be happy with somewhere between where we finished last year and 6th.
 




Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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I'd have pretty low expectations for a striker who only cost £3 to be honest.

:wink:

D'oh! Damn my stupidity. Thank you for being kind on me. You could have been much more harsh for that error!
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
49,189
Gloucester
Poyet out? - no definitely not. We're doing OK - I'm just remembering all the seasons over the last fifty odd years when we'd have LOVED to be in the top ten of the second tier! Having said that, some results have been disappointing this season - we're in about the same position as we were last year, and when we signed class like Bruno, Bridge and Kuszack in the summer, plus a couple of players from Swansea, there was an expectation - or at least a hope - that we'd actually do a bit BETTER this time round, which hasn't really happened yet.
 


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