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[Albion] Potter's subs today



GT49er

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Perhaps he could work towards a system which gets players into positions to get plenty of shots off. The first half was staggeringly impotent with very few shots and it was a surprisingly easy game for Darlow, generous penalty aside. We had the whole game, why didn't we get more shots off to get ourselves a killer second goal?

I've no idea why. That was nothing to do with my pont anyway! If I had to guess, maybe too many of our players wanted too many touches?
 




Swansman

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Perhaps he could work towards a system which gets players into positions to get plenty of shots off. The first half was staggeringly impotent with very few shots and it was a surprisingly easy game for Darlow, generous penalty aside. We had the whole game, why didn't we get more shots off to get ourselves a killer second goal?

Football is more than systems unfortunately. Some of the blokes didnt have their best day at the job, the tactics were perhaps not as good as they could have been, the skill of the individuals a bit limited, plus eleven guys on the other team reluctant to let our boys go and put the ball into the net.
 


trueblue

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Forget the subs for a moment - why did Maupay not start on Saturday?

With Lamptey and MC providing the width, March was 'lost'

I know Trossard played well - but IMO he should have started behind Maupay - not playing your best striker (or any real striker) at home to the bottom of the league doesn't sit right with me.

I agree the false 9 worked very well against City and Liverpool because you couldn't expect Maupay to get much change out of their centre-backs so it posed a different problem defenders don't enjoy. But no reason he wouldn't have a bit more success against a defence like Newcastle's. That said, I suppose there's no reason GP would rush to change it with Trossard in outstanding form. Will be interesting to see whether Maupay gets the nod against Villa.
 


jcdenton08

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Well, today he seemed to completely misread exactly why we were in the solid, if unspectacular, position we were in up until then in the match.

Two major issues - the subs he did make and the subs he didn't.

The game changing sub he did make, along with the change of formation, was surreal. He obviously thought we could nick it, which is why it happened - and I applaud his ambition, if not his tactical decision making. Their goal came from us getting rinsed down our right hand side, which was nullified before then all game by their concern about Lamptey playing essentially as an old fashioned right winger. Without him (or a like for like replacement) there, it completely opened up that side of the pitch. They score there within minutes. In short, that tweak directly cost us the game.

The subs he didn't make? Well, after taking off our fastest player, he kept on our slowest player (Gross) and isolated him in Lamptey's position. Why on earth would you do this?!

The only way it could possibly have made sense would be to bring Gross off for Veltman at the time of bringing Maupay on for Lamptey. We directly and consciously sacrificed our entire right flank.

Truly bizarre decisions once again today and, sadly, once again directly cost us points.
 


Justice

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Well, today he seemed to completely misread exactly why we were in the solid, if unspectacular, position we were in up until then in the match.

Two major issues - the subs he did make and the subs he didn't.

The game changing sub he did make, along with the change of formation, was surreal. He obviously thought we could nick it, which is why it happened - and I applaud his ambition, if not his tactical decision making. Their goal came from us getting rinsed down our right hand side, which was nullified before then all game by their concern about Lamptey playing essentially as an old fashioned right winger. Without him (or a like for like replacement) there, it completely opened up that side of the pitch. They score there within minutes. In short, that tweak directly cost us the game.

The subs he didn't make? Well, after taking off our fastest player, he kept on our slowest player (Gross) and isolated him in Lamptey's position. Why on earth would you do this?!

The only way it could possibly have made sense would be to bring Gross off for Veltman at the time of bringing Maupay on for Lamptey. We directly and consciously sacrificed our entire right flank.

Truly bizarre decisions once again today and, sadly, once again directly cost us points.
Nice bloke though :thumbsup: Joking apart exactly this shit show of a game plan Lamptey was keeping us some what up the pitch.
 




Reddleman

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I totally understand the need to protect Lamptey but not at the expense of the game in hand. Sure we did the right think by the sports scientists today but directly cost ourselves a point.
 


amexer

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Agree very strange decision Lamptey coming off for Maupay. and it cost us the game. Understandable if replaced by Veltman.
 


Monsieur Le Plonk

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Well, today he seemed to completely misread exactly why we were in the solid, if unspectacular, position we were in up until then in the match.

Two major issues - the subs he did make and the subs he didn't.

The game changing sub he did make, along with the change of formation, was surreal. He obviously thought we could nick it, which is why it happened - and I applaud his ambition, if not his tactical decision making. Their goal came from us getting rinsed down our right hand side, which was nullified before then all game by their concern about Lamptey playing essentially as an old fashioned right winger. Without him (or a like for like replacement) there, it completely opened up that side of the pitch. They score there within minutes. In short, that tweak directly cost us the game.

The subs he didn't make? Well, after taking off our fastest player, he kept on our slowest player (Gross) and isolated him in Lamptey's position. Why on earth would you do this?!

The only way it could possibly have made sense would be to bring Gross off for Veltman at the time of bringing Maupay on for Lamptey. We directly and consciously sacrificed our entire right flank.

Truly bizarre decisions once again today and, sadly, once again directly cost us points.

Bugger. If I’d seen this post then I wouldn’t have bothered writing exactly the same thing far less for eloquently on the match thread.

Well said sir.
 




jcdenton08

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Bugger. If I’d seen this post then I wouldn’t have bothered writing exactly the same thing far less for eloquently on the match thread.

Well said sir.

Thank you. I wish it had ended differently, but I find it very frustrating and disheartening when a layman like me can clearly see what is about to happen, and our esteemed (and generally excellent) manager and coaching staff all miss it.

Not meaning to self-congratulate here - and for balance I absolutely embarrassed myself in the Liverpool match thread, predicting we'd get hammered - but this exact thing happened once before this season. Watching the Everton game at the Amex, he inexplicably brought Veltman for Mac Allister at half time - and put him at left wing back. A position he hadn't played before or since. He got absolutely annihilated, giving away a penalty (after being caught out of position) within ten minutes. When he lined up at left back before kicking a ball, I said to my mate... "Why - just why? Coleman and Gray will have him on toast.".

Some of his substitutions leave me completely baffled. I'd love to actually ask him "what was your thinking behind this change - what was the intention tactically?".
 


GT49er

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Today he got the subs wrong. That is the be all and end all of it.


Nearly all of us would have made different substitutions ............................... which may or may not have been equally disastrous, or worse. Unlike us, though, GP is being paid a lot of money - he needs to get it right more often than wrong. Hopefully not too many more like today.
 


Terry Butcher Tribute Act

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Wouldn't it be refreshing if Naylor just came out and said Potter gets it right some weeks and on others makes a pigs ear of it. 8 games without a win

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Normandy seagull

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Read all the comments saying why did Curcuella and Lampety come off. It seemed quite obvious to me. Curcuella has a quite second half and was on a booking. Lamptey not 100% fit and had made many lung busting runs and was shot. I agree totally with the wrong subs brought on-Maupay and Mac. Both have been terrible the last month. I would have given Sariemento and Locadia a go- couldn't be much worse. Maupay didn't touch the ball and Mac did nothing again. I mean if Joelinton can score for the toon then miracles do happen!
 


Swansman

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High risk high reward sub, the Maupay for Lamptey one, and in hindsight the wrong decision.

Wouldn't it be refreshing if Naylor just came out and said Potter gets it right some weeks and on others makes a pigs ear of it. 8 games without a win

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Why? I mean I think that is the case, sometimes (usually) he gets it right sometimes not but what on earth does Andy Naylor have to do with anything..?
 








TWOCHOICEStom

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The thing that had me screaming for a policeman was Webster continuing to bomb up the pitch knowing he didn’t have the cover of Lamptey should we lose possession. Bad sub made worse by bad on-field decisions IMO
 


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