[Football] Potter to West Ham?

[7dialssouthpaw]

I've heard he's quite happy with the pile of cash he's already accumulated and, as others have alluded to on here, moving from Hove is a bigger hurdle to his return to management than anything else...

do we think he might just be hanging around until the Brighton job is available again?

 

[Commander]

do we think he might just be hanging around until the Brighton job is available again?

No chance.

 

[Brian Fantana]

do we think he might just be hanging around until the Brighton job is available again?

I think I have more chance of getting the Brighton job than Potter does of getting it again.

 

[Monkey Man]

do we think he might just be hanging around until the Brighton job is available again?

Just going through this thought experiment in my head. Let's say RDZ is gone at some point in the next 12 months, and GP is available, and applies for the job.

What would the board's reaction be? And would it make any difference that fans would be so fiercely divided on the matter?

("Fiercely divided" may be understating it of course.)

 

[Insel affe]

I think I have more chance of getting the Brighton job than Potter does of getting it again.

he would not even be considered, the manner of his departure, the alleged tapping up the previous season and taking neigh on all the back room staff would not have endured him to Bloom & Barber at all.

He is a snake and can't be trusted, end of........

 

[Brian Fantana]

he would not even be considered, the manner of his departure, the alleged tapping up the previous season and taking neigh on all the back room staff would not have endured him to Bloom & Barber at all.

He is a snake and can't be trusted, end of........

In all seriousness, I suspect that there's probably a perfectly cordial relationship between GP and TB/PB. I just see it as highly, highly unlikely that our paths will cross again in that regard.

 

[Anger]

No chance.

What about Whitehawk?

 

[Man of Harveys]

If that came to pass I would run down to that bench and shove my season ticket so far up his Brummy backside that it tickled his tonsils. Yes, even if it does only physically exist on my phone.

 

[Insel affe]

In all seriousness, I suspect that there's probably a perfectly cordial relationship between GP and TB/PB. I just see it as highly, highly unlikely that our paths will cross again in that regard.

hmmmm.

of course we are grateful for Potter taking us to the next level, but when you cross uncle T, I think you are done in his book.
Mathew Benham is a prime example, I am sure Bloom refuses to even go in the board room of Brentford before or after games and prefers to be with the fans.

someone can correct me on that.

 

[Beanstalk]

he would not even be considered, the manner of his departure, the alleged tapping up the previous season and taking neigh on all the back room staff would not have endured him to Bloom & Barber at all.

He is a snake and can't be trusted, end of........

Yes, I went to a thing with PB at the Amex early in RDZ's reign (as an intro to the fans of sorts) and when asked about Potter's departure he said that there was no bad blood between the club and either Ben Roberts or Bruno and he'd like to see fans appreciate everything they've done for the Albion as both playing and non-playing staff. Potter isn't coming back anytime soon.

 

[Insel affe]

Yes, I went to a thing with PB at the Amex early in RDZ's reign (as an intro to the fans of sorts) and when asked about Potter's departure he said that there was no bad blood between the club and either Ben Roberts or Bruno and he'd like to see fans appreciate everything they've done for the Albion as both playing and non-playing staff.

sound bytes

Potter isn't coming back anytime soon.

agreed.

 

[Braggfan]

Just going through this thought experiment in my head. Let's say RDZ is gone at some point in the next 12 months, and GP is available, and applies for the job.

What would the board's reaction be? And would it make any difference that fans would be so fiercely divided on the matter?

("Fiercely divided" may be understating it of course.)

I don't think the board would have a problem with him in the slightest. I don't recall them ever having criticised him about any part of it. They agreed to let him go, and they've openly said that they will let people go if good opportunities arise. And also I've heard them say that if people leave on good terms, there's always the possibility they might return one day. So I think the board on a personal level would have him back, but they won't go down the road because of how fans would react to it.

 

[5Ways Gull]

Each club he's linked with I think 'nah, the fans will eat him alive'.
I reckon the England job is the only one he's really suited too.

Then the tabloids will eat him alive

 

[Brian Fantana]

hmmmm.

of course we are grateful for Potter taking us to the next level, but when you cross uncle T, I think you are done in his book.
Mathew Benham is a prime example, I am sure Bloom refuses to even go in the board room of Brentford before or after games and prefers to be with the fans.

someone can correct me on that.

I think there's an enormous difference between what Benham seemingly did (the details are obviously sketchy) and what Potter did. In the latter's case, everything happened as per GP's contract. You don't insert a release clause without a) being prepared for someone to come along and pay it and b) being comfortable with the financial compensation you'd receive. I think TB will obviously be disappointed that GP didn't stay at the club longer, especially as were really beginning to tick but at the same time I don't think he would have expected him to turn down Chelsea. TB and the Albion were fairly compensated, we moved on and found RDZ and the rest is history.

I don't really see the particular cause for any bad blood between GP and TB. All of it was played out by the book (and I'm certain TB was expecting an approach from another club sooner rather than later).

 

[Insel affe]

I don't think the board would have a problem with him in the slightest.

Maybe because we already have in a place a succession plan, that and the millions in compensation, oh and not mentioning his history lesson outburst.

I don't recall them ever having criticised him about any part of it. They agreed to let him go,

See above, that and the unwritten rule, don't bad mouth folk, be the bigger person, makes you look better not them.

and they've openly said that they will let people go if good opportunities arise.

That again is nothing more than sound bytes, it works both ways, because you are also attracting potential targets as well as covering your arse if they leave.

And also I've heard them say that if people leave on good terms, there's always the possibility they might return one day.

Yeah, I love that word possible in all it's various forms.

So I think the board on a personal level would have him back,

I disagree, but it is just my opinion, you could be right.

but they won't go down the road because of how fans would react to it.

Agreed

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Just going through this thought experiment in my head. Let's say RDZ is gone at some point in the next 12 months, and GP is available, and applies for the job.

What would the board's reaction be? And would it make any difference that fans would be so fiercely divided on the matter?

("Fiercely divided" may be understating it of course.)

I've done the thought experiment and I think there are many many reasons why this would be a great idea. First, he proved he was a good coach, took a defensive team and made it an exciting, possession-based attacking one, then sorted out the defence when we were shipping too many goals on the counter, then finally got the attack firing again without losing the defensive side after a prolonged period of few goals. The results in the last six months were excellent and better than we've experienced since. And he bloods youngsters and shows innovation and etc etc. He would be an incredibly safe appointment with potential to keep building on what he left,

So he's a good coach, despite the revisionism. Second, if he comes back he won't always be at risk of being poached, like last time. The biggest thing that frustrates me about having an exciting young manager is that when they do well they are always being linked with 'bigger' clubs, and if they don't do well, then, well, we're not doing well. It happened constantly with Potter until he eventually went, and it is happening with RDZ now who will also go eventually. But now Potter is perceived to have failed at a big club he won't be in the same demand the second time around. No-one is linking Emery or Moyes with big jobs even though each is doing better than RDZ this season.

Third, I would be amazed if the club was annoyed at him. As for the fans, its all hot air and panto. We're a fanbase who accepted Coppell as our manager, who accepted Mullery, Murray and Hammond back, and we're also the fanbase who turn on all our stars the moment they leave - unless and only unless they cry on the pitch after their last game and make us think they're being dragged off against their will. As an online fanbase we're incredibly needy, unbelievably fickle, we're easily hurt and we are very quick to forgive and forget. I wouldn't be worried about this at all.

 

[Forster's Armband]

I've done the thought experiment and I think there are many many reasons why this would be a great idea. First, he proved he was a good coach, took a defensive team and made it an exciting, possession-based attacking one, then sorted out the defence when we were shipping too many goals on the counter, then finally got the attack firing again without losing the defensive side after a prolonged period of few goals. The results in the last six months were excellent and better than we've experienced since. And he bloods youngsters and shows innovation and etc etc. He would be an incredibly safe appointment with potential to keep building on what he left,

So he's a good coach, despite the revisionism. Second, if he comes back he won't always be at risk of being poached, like last time. The biggest thing that frustrates me about having an exciting young manager is that when they do well they are always being linked with 'bigger' clubs, and if they don't do well, then, well, we're not doing well. It happened constantly with Potter until he eventually went, and it is happening with RDZ now who will also go eventually. But now Potter is perceived to have failed at a big club he won't be in the same demand the second time around. No-one is linking Emery or Moyes with big jobs even though each is doing better than RDZ this season.

Third, I would be amazed if the club was annoyed at him. As for the fans, its all hot air and panto. We're a fanbase who accepted Coppell as our manager, who accepted Mullery, Murray and Hammond back, and we're also the fanbase who turn on all our stars the moment they leave - unless and only unless they cry on the pitch after their last game and make us think they're being dragged off against their will. As an online fanbase we're incredibly needy, unbelievably fickle, we're easily hurt and we are very quick to forgive and forget. I wouldn't be worried about this at all.

I don't think Potter will ever be our Head Coach again. I am not convinced there is any bad blood (although I have spoken to people close to the club who say he did speak to Chelsea in the summer before he went, this could easily be bollocks of course), I do think that Bloom and Barber will want to move forward when RDZ goes. The Potter chapter is done and dusted now, the successor to RDZ will need to be someone who is ambitious and doesn't see a ceiling or that we are little old Brighton.

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I've done the thought experiment and I think there are many many reasons why this would be a great idea. First, he proved he was a good coach, took a defensive team and made it an exciting, possession-based attacking one, then sorted out the defence when we were shipping too many goals on the counter, then finally got the attack firing again without losing the defensive side after a prolonged period of few goals. The results in the last six months were excellent and better than we've experienced since. And he bloods youngsters and shows innovation and etc etc. He would be an incredibly safe appointment with potential to keep building on what he left,

So he's a good coach, despite the revisionism. Second, if he comes back he won't always be at risk of being poached, like last time. The biggest thing that frustrates me about having an exciting young manager is that when they do well they are always being linked with 'bigger' clubs, and if they don't do well, then, well, we're not doing well. It happened constantly with Potter until he eventually went, and it is happening with RDZ now who will also go eventually. But now Potter is perceived to have failed at a big club he won't be in the same demand the second time around. No-one is linking Emery or Moyes with big jobs even though each is doing better than RDZ this season.

Third, I would be amazed if the club was annoyed at him. As for the fans, its all hot air and panto. We're a fanbase who accepted Coppell as our manager, who accepted Mullery, Murray and Hammond back, and we're also the fanbase who turn on all our stars the moment they leave - unless and only unless they cry on the pitch after their last game and make us think they're being dragged off against their will. As an online fanbase we're incredibly needy, unbelievably fickle, we're easily hurt and we are very quick to forgive and forget. I wouldn't be worried about this at all.

Agreed. If RDZ does go, Potter is my first choice personally, he's an excellent coach and in some ways, I preferred watching us then to now. Yes I know not many will agree with that but he set us up brilliantly and some of our attacking passages of play were on another level yet we were still a solid unit. Those matches at the end of the 2021/2022 season and start of 2022/2023 were the best I've ever seen us play, we we were elite. All the while Potter is out of work whilst RDZ is linked with other jobs, I'm happy.

Murray went to Crystal Palace of all teams and we loved him when he came back.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I don't think Potter will ever be our Head Coach again. I am not convinced there is any bad blood (although I have spoken to people close to the club who say he did speak to Chelsea in the summer before he went, this could easily be bollocks of course), I do think that Bloom and Barber will want to move forward when RDZ goes. The Potter chapter is done and dusted now, the successor to RDZ will need to be someone who is ambitious and doesn't see a ceiling or that we are little old Brighton.

Yes, although I think it would be a good fit for all, I would also be amazed if he came back.

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

I don't think he will ever coach again.
Thoroughly torched at Chelsea and has no need for any monitary reward now.
Early retirement, never to be seen again, except for going to matches now and again to wind folk up on here !

Very possibly true. I never got the feeling he enjoyed football management very much. Now he has the Chelsea money I doubt he's too bothered about getting back into it!