[Football] Potter [NOT] at Chelsea

[rool]

I did and then all I saw as people quoting a blocked content and it made the threads even more unreadable. I’m a nice guy so have him a 7th chance, but it’s again getting annoying. Of course this is NSC so someone will be about to quote me and make it my fault somehow or belittle my level of ‘annoyance’ which they aren’t privy to and will guess / assume

He hasn't posted since last night so has possibly been 'advised' from above or had his wings clipped again.
Like you say, ignoring makes the threads just as unreadable do to how frequent he posts.

 

[Bakero]

 

[herecomesaregular]

I see Swansman's takeover of NSC is going better than Putin's takeover of Ukraine.

 

[RandyWanger]

Incidentally, I found a very… interesting Reddit account completely by chance when browsing the Premier League subreddit. This person was going on about Potter on there this person claims to be a 35 year old Englishman living in Sweden, unemployed but working mostly as a translator. They’ve never seen Brighton live, but stream every game and were planning to return to England last year but that fell through, over concerns about losing Swedish residence if they left the country. Strangely, this person is quite adamant in views on certain subjects in a near identical way to our Swedish poster here. I think they’d be great friends and wish there was a way to introduce them somehow.

Got a link?

 

[jcdenton08]

Got a link?

Sorry, I just had a look and couldn’t find the user, I didn’t note down the username but it was something like BloggingMyLife or similar. Did a few searches but Reddit is a vast, barren wasteland even at the best of times…

 

[Bold Seagull]

calling Richard Keys and Andy Gray main stream is a bit of a stretch.

 

[albionalex]

"Poisoned chalice" is such a perfect term for this situation.

I don't think it is.

Would any other top club allow this terrible run of form and not sack their manager?

Would a world class manager still produce his terrible run of form?

 

[keaton]

From Football 365

Manchester City have won more Chelsea games (three) than Chelsea (two) since November 6. Manchester City have also scored more goals in Chelsea games (five) than Chelsea (four) in 2023

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Ermmm if l could understand what you are saying, then perhaps l would reply to it.

 

[RandyWanger]

Read it as Man City have beat and out scored Chelsea more times than Chelsea have won all other games in that period.

 

[Hamilton]

In what way does he expect more?

GP after pretty much every single defeat - "we have to learn and improve".
RDZ after pretty much (not Charlton) every single defeat - "we played fantastic, I want to congratulate my players. I don't like the ref"

One of them usually after a defeat usually says that they themselves are at fault and need to improve and get better, the other says that the team was fantastic but f***ed over by the ref.

Imho the former way of seeing it is the more ambitious one. "Its our fault, we need to get learn and improve" vs "We're fantastic, can't get any better, and everything is that damn refs fault".

But again, this is a bit like me walking into The Manson Familys supporter forum and claiming that Jim Jones is an equally fine cult leader.

That's a pretty inaccurate assessment of what RDZ says. Pretty accurate on what Potter says.

What either of them says behind closed doors, neither of us will know.

 

[Swansman]

I don't think it is.

Would any other top club allow this terrible run of form and not sack their manager?

Would a world class manager still produce his terrible run of form?

Liverpool has allowed their manager to remain despite very similar results

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Liverpool has allowed their manager to remain despite very similar results

Though title and champions league success, suggests Klopp probably has a little more credibility

 

[timbha]

Liverpool has allowed their manager to remain despite very similar results

Klopp has a lot more in the bank and the backing of the fans

 

[Bold Seagull]

In what way does he expect more?

GP after pretty much every single defeat - "we have to learn and improve".
RDZ after pretty much (not Charlton) every single defeat - "we played fantastic, I want to congratulate my players. I don't like the ref"

One of them usually after a defeat usually says that they themselves are at fault and need to improve and get better, the other says that the team was fantastic but f***ed over by the ref.

RDZ has connected with the fan base because he is a bit more like a fan. He says things we're probably thinking and feeling.

GP likes to control what he can control and everything else is irrelevant as it is outside his control. This detachment probably does work really well in some cases, certainly in sports psychology and things like that, but when it's going against you, and you need those on the outside to believe in what you're doing, it makes him a tough person to take to.

 

[Swansman]

Though title and champions league success, suggests Klopp probably has a little more credibility

That is a separate question though.
Bloke asked if any other manager is allowed such a poor form and if a good - a world class one specifically - manager could oversee a team failing to win games.
The answer to the first question is Jurgen Klopp, and some would argue that it is the answer to the second one as well.

 

[Bold Seagull]

That is a separate question though.
Bloke asked if any other manager is allowed such a poor form and if a good - a world class one specifically - manager could oversee a team failing to win games.
The answer to the first question is Jurgen Klopp, and some would argue that it is the answer to the second one as well.

Jurgen Klopp is a great example of it not all being about the manager. Fans and media do get obsessed that football managers are all powerful footballing gods that are the conduits of success or failure, but sometimes football is just about runs of confidence, belief, desire and a set of players all clicking at the right time - see Claudio Ranieri. You don't sack Klopp much in the same way you wouldn't have sacked Sir Alex Ferguson for a couple of shit seasons.

Potter's problem is that he has taken over a shit storm of a club that had an all powerful oligarch that probably terrified everyone who had to make a decision, to one with a power vacuum and no one really knowing what the deal is, who is taking ownership over decisions and who is going to be left holding bag.

 

[Weststander]

Liverpool has allowed their manager to remain despite very similar results

Nunez cost £64m and Gakpo £35m. Chelsea have spent £600m on top of already having a CL squad.

 

[Weststander]

Jurgen Klopp is a great example of it not all being about the manager. Fans and media do get obsessed that football managers are all powerful footballing gods that are the conduits of success or failure, but sometimes football is just about runs of confidence, belief, desire and a set of players all clicking at the right time - see Claudio Ranieri. You don't sack Klopp much in the same way you wouldn't have sacked Sir Alex Ferguson for a couple of shit seasons.

Potter's problem is that he has taken over a shit storm of a club that had an all powerful oligarch that probably terrified everyone who had to make a decision, to one with a power vacuum and no one really knowing what the deal is, who is taking ownership over decisions and who is going to be left holding bag.

There’s a quote from Fergie somewhere about the quality of players in the squad is far more important than the manager in achieving success.

 

[BadFish]

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