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[Football] Potter [NOT] at Chelsea

Potter at Chelsea

  • I want him to fail

    Votes: 365 48.2%
  • I want him to succeed

    Votes: 73 9.6%
  • He's gone. I'm indifferent. Graham who?

    Votes: 320 42.2%

  • Total voters
    758






I want him to do well, but this season I feel like finishing below Chelsea ruins our chances of European football!
I don't have any interest in him whatsoever neither doing well or doing badly. All I care about is how we're doing and Roberto De Zerbi. We've moved up a level and have a coach who is very passionate albeit at times, possibly too passionate?(red/yellow cards)🤣. Chelsea will finish above us possibly this season almost certainly next season with or without Potter in charge.
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,374
Potter took nearly three seasons to start achieving a significant improvement in results. The press only chose to look at the last 15-16 games of his career with us, describing his whole tenure as fantastic and what a great job he had done. A win percentage of 31% doesn't suggest this. He was wildly inconsistent. One minute looking like world beaters, next minute didn't know where and when the next point or goal was coming from. He stabilised the side, improved the style of play but didn't have the dynamism to push on a la RDZ.
He has created his own persona of being a youngish, thoughtful and inventive manager. The press bought into this and made him a media darling. He courted them and they lapped it up. They are still lapping it up. He is fiercely ambitious and project Potter was set in place some time ago.
How good is he? Time will tell. I don't see him as a multiple trophy winner. Good manager but not elite.
RDZ is all about risk and reward. More wins. More defeats. Less draws. Lets try and win but accept the risk of losing. Potter is more cautious and this spreads through his teams and results in barren periods of goalscoring. We have moved to another level and it is all for the better.
 


Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,472
Two things that will always irritate me about the Potter to Chelsea saga...
1. Although we knew he would go eventually, he went as soon as the first bigger opportunity came; It was ill timed, he filleted our club of established, highly regarded coaches and in spite of his open letter of thanks he was generally quite graceless, telling another audience that if had 'wanted an easy life' he would have stayed with us.
2. Any club but Chelsea would have been more acceptable....
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,021
Surrey
Two things that will always irritate me about the Potter to Chelsea saga...
1. Although we knew he would go eventually, he went as soon as the first bigger opportunity came; It was ill timed, he filleted our club of established, highly regarded coaches and in spite of his open letter of thanks he was generally quite graceless, telling another audience that if had 'wanted an easy life' he would have stayed with us.
2. Any club but Chelsea would have been more acceptable....
This neatly summises how I feel. So reflecting that, it's not outright dislike from me, more annoyance and disdain at him. And like.most same people, I always hated Chelsea at the best of times anyway. Far more than any other big club.
 




Two things that will always irritate me about the Potter to Chelsea saga...
1. Although we knew he would go eventually, he went as soon as the first bigger opportunity came; It was ill timed, he filleted our club of established, highly regarded coaches and in spite of his open letter of thanks he was generally quite graceless, telling another audience that if had 'wanted an easy life' he would have stayed with us.
2. Any club but Chelsea would have been more acceptable....
Not forgetting the 'history lesson' comment after a few frustrated boos against Leeds (the very same this season against Nottingham Forest) also, with Roberto.. constant 'we are what we are' analysis in terms of being only Brighton. Compare now to RDS believing we can compete for Europe and anything is possible with current crop of players.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
Potter took nearly three seasons to start achieving a significant improvement in results. The press only chose to look at the last 15-16 games of his career with us, describing his whole tenure as fantastic and what a great job he had done. A win percentage of 31% doesn't suggest this. He was wildly inconsistent. One minute looking like world beaters, next minute didn't know where and when the next point or goal was coming from. He stabilised the side, improved the style of play but didn't have the dynamism to push on a la RDZ.
He has created his own persona of being a youngish, thoughtful and inventive manager. The press bought into this and made him a media darling. He courted them and they lapped it up. They are still lapping it up. He is fiercely ambitious and project Potter was set in place some time ago.
How good is he? Time will tell. I don't see him as a multiple trophy winner. Good manager but not elite.
RDZ is all about risk and reward. More wins. More defeats. Less draws. Lets try and win but accept the risk of losing. Potter is more cautious and this spreads through his teams and results in barren periods of goalscoring. We have moved to another level and it is all for the better.
Some people - not a lot to be fair - in the press actually know quite a bit of football and had the ability to look beyond the results. Of course today people are saying "why didn't Graham Potters team in the first season do as well as Roberto De Zerbis team in the first season?", which is obviously part of the narrative since everyone understands that the squad in 2019/20 was nowhere near a top 10 side while the current squad is. The completely ridicilous afterthought that Potter was the reason Brighton didn't score a bunch of goals is just silly. If people actually think this is the case, the club should just sell Mitoma, Welbeck, Ferguson, Pervis, Veltman, Alexis, Caicedo etc for good money and then replace them with Maupay, Connolly, Jahanbakhsh, Burn, Montoya, Stephens and Pröpper, who would all (maybe except for Burn) be very cheap and apparently capable of making the team score 60 goals in the Premier League.
 








Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
21,125
Born In Shoreham
Some people - not a lot to be fair - in the press actually know quite a bit of football and had the ability to look beyond the results. Of course today people are saying "why didn't Graham Potters team in the first season do as well as Roberto De Zerbis team in the first season?", which is obviously part of the narrative since everyone understands that the squad in 2019/20 was nowhere near a top 10 side while the current squad is. The completely ridicilous afterthought that Potter was the reason Brighton didn't score a bunch of goals is just silly. If people actually think this is the case, the club should just sell Mitoma, Welbeck, Ferguson, Pervis, Veltman, Alexis, Caicedo etc for good money and then replace them with Maupay, Connolly, Jahanbakhsh, Burn, Montoya, Stephens and Pröpper, who would all (maybe except for Burn) be very cheap and apparently capable of making the team score 60 goals in the Premier League.
Before covid the team wasn’t playing well and it was all going down hill rather rapidly, the drop looked likely at that point. We ended up with two more points I think than CH managed in his first season.
 










ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,256
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Before covid the team wasn’t playing well and it was all going down hill rather rapidly, the drop looked likely at that point. We ended up with two more points I think than CH managed in his first season.
It was actually just 1 point better than CH managed in his first season and the last game prior to Covid, a goalless draw away at Wolves, was the 10th game in a row we didn't win.
 














Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,313
After dropping 2 more points the best they can hope for now is 6th. And we're 4 points above, 2 games in hand and a +14 goal difference, while Liverpool can now focus on the Prem.
 




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