[Albion] Potter: nasty post match interview

[LamieRobertson]

He came, he saw,his team were thrashed, he went away.

Fixed

 

[Blatter]

I booed Potter when he got off the coach before the game and all the support staff and Cucurella. I did it not because I bear any of them any particular ill will, but because I thought Potter in particular would think it was unjust and it would annoy him and impact his management during the game. I think it probably did.

So it's you we have to thank for that win?

 

[Nobby]

Potter has always been honest and reasonable in his press conferences and he was honest and reasonable again in his post match interviews. He is right that he did a very good job at Brighton. However, and this is surprising given his education in EI, he utterly misses the point. Nobody asked him about whether he did a good job. Nobody asked whether he had anything to apologise for. The questions were generally about whether he could understand the Brighton fans reaction. The questions were not about attainment or remorse, they were essentially asking 'Did you know that your leaving at the time, at the speed, and in the way you did hurt these people emotionally/'

He uncharacteristically avoided the question and deflected back to his performance as our manager. This suggests to me that he does know how much his departure hurt and that he didn't want to address it. To immediately go to 'I've nothing to apologise for' when he wasn't asked that shows that he has interpreted the question and answered the one being posed by his conscience, not by the journalists. He is rationalising, which doesn't work when you're dealing with feelings.

I'm surprised that a man who is always being touted as someone who can deal with the person not the player has constantly struggled to understand the emotional reactions of crowds. I think he suffers from a logical fallacy that seems extremely common in the insular world of football, believing that those not employed within the game are somehow lesser, that their opinions and feelings matter less. However many billionaires arrive, football belongs to the punter. Busby, Shankly, Stein, Ferguson, Clough all knew that. The great managers in British football have always been of the people, not in spite of them.

THIS!!

And it is surprising that his insecurity comes out at these times.
He will have to face many more moments like this - and will have to learn to turn the other of those newly coiffured cheeks more often.
If he speaks about these lowlife Chelsea fans like he spoke about us (the history lesson stuff), when they lose, he will be out well before the end of the season.

I honestly don't think we will see him here again for a long while, maybe ever.

 

[zefarelly]

Yes I was watching that closely and very little eye contact and distinctly mechanical from Dunky particularly.

Dunk was very professional and diplomatic.

Also noticed a few, shall we say, less than emotional hugs from players after the game, MacA notably. A professional but f*** you reaction.

 

[heathgate]

Potter has always been honest and reasonable in his press conferences and he was honest and reasonable again in his post match interviews. He is right that he did a very good job at Brighton. However, and this is surprising given his education in EI, he utterly misses the point. Nobody asked him about whether he did a good job. Nobody asked whether he had anything to apologise for. The questions were generally about whether he could understand the Brighton fans reaction. The questions were not about attainment or remorse, they were essentially asking 'Did you know that your leaving at the time, at the speed, and in the way you did hurt these people emotionally/'

He uncharacteristically avoided the question and deflected back to his performance as our manager. This suggests to me that he does know how much his departure hurt and that he didn't want to address it. To immediately go to 'I've nothing to apologise for' when he wasn't asked that shows that he has interpreted the question and answered the one being posed by his conscience, not by the journalists. He is rationalising, which doesn't work when you're dealing with feelings.

I'm surprised that a man who is always being touted as someone who can deal with the person not the player has constantly struggled to understand the emotional reactions of crowds. I think he suffers from a logical fallacy that seems extremely common in the insular world of football, believing that those not employed within the game are somehow lesser, that their opinions and feelings matter less. However many billionaires arrive, football belongs to the punter. Busby, Shankly, Stein, Ferguson, Clough all knew that. The great managers in British football have always been of the people, not in spite of them.

Yup.... nail on head....well said...( did you mean atonement rather than attainment?)

 

[Stato]

Yup.... nail on head....well said...( did you mean atonement rather than attainment?)

No, attainment as in what he achieved as our manager.

 

[Swansman]

It's odd isn't it. I'm sure he must have given a lot of thought to his return to the Amex - and if he really DID have all that EI, he would have said something like "I can completely understand the fans' reaction - we had a great thing going, and obviously for me and the whole backroom team to leave so suddenly must have been a shock. But that's football. I wish Brighton all the very best - they will always have a huge place in my heart". If he'd conveyed those sort of sentiments then we'd have a different perspective. It really didn't need much from Potter to cement his place in our hearts, but - as far as I'm aware - he didn't bother before the match, and he certainly didn't bother afterwards. Maybe he just needs 100% of his emotional intelligence to control all the super egos in the Chelsea dressing room?

Ok so his words didn't please anyone but how does that make him any different from you or me?

Why would he say the things you mentioned after getting booed? Why is he supposed to kneel down and say how much he respects you etc. when you don't respect him? It makes no sense.

 

[Weststander]

For all this emotional intelligence bollocks he’s a f***ing clown that can’t keep his mouth shut. Interesting our players didn’t give him much acknowledgment at the end of the game

The Brummie has his MSc, but can’t keep his bitchiness to himself.

 

[Triggaaar]

However many billionaires arrive, football belongs to the punter.

Although I find it concerning that some adverts at the game were written in glyphs, suggesting the punter isn't necessarily in our country.

 

[Jim in the West]

Ok so his words didn't please anyone but how does that make him any different from you or me?

Why would he say the things you mentioned after getting booed? Why is he supposed to kneel down and say how much he respects you etc. when you don't respect him? It makes no sense.

If he had any sense he would have said them BEFORE the match. That's part of my point. And I'm not asking him to respect me - i'm just observing that - for someone who has a big reputation for his emotional intelligence - it seemed strangely lacking yesterday.

 

[Weststander]

THIS!!

And it is surprising that his insecurity comes out at these times.
He will have to face many more moments like this - and will have to learn to turn the other of those newly coiffured cheeks more often.
If he speaks about these lowlife Chelsea fans like he spoke about us (the history lesson stuff), when they lose, he will be out well before the end of the season.

I honestly don't think we will see him here again for a long while, maybe ever.

He’ll never go for the Chavs fans.

He won’t want to part with a bought CL level project.

 

[Icy Gull]

Ok so his words didn't please anyone but how does that make him any different from you or me?

Why would he say the things you mentioned after getting booed? Why is he supposed to kneel down and say how much he respects you etc. when you don't respect him? It makes no sense.

He should have said that he understood Brighton fans feeling angry and disappointed as soon as he left. As far as I’m aware he hasn’t, he just given us a history lesson about how well he did and how he has nothing to apologise for, Piss poor from a man who is supposed to be a guru on Emotional Intelligence.

Anyway yesterday was very cathartic and I will now be putting my energy into getting behind De Zerbi. I no longer care if he succeeds or fails at Chelsea, he did a great job for us, and for that I thank him.

 

[banjo]

Graham who? Think the team did all the talking we need yesterday.

 

[nickjhs]

He looks like he is hurting in that interview. Good.

Doesn't he just. I don't think I have ever seen him look so stressed. Moving on from GP. RDZ got to love him, we beat Chelsea 4-1 and he apologises for the goal they scored blaming himself for nor responding quickly to Chelsea's change in tactics and says the team ,although brilliant in the first 25 mins, needs to improve.

 

[Swansman]

He’ll never go for the Chavs fans.

He won’t want to part with a bought CL level project.

I don't think he will, no.

I think when he came to Brighton and understood the history of the club, he thought maybe that the struggles of the past would have made the Brighton fans more tolerant, like not booing their own team after a draw. Its not a strange thing to assume, people who have been through shit are quite often able to deal with the non-perfections in life in a sensible manner. Hence the "history lesson" comment. Obviously he was wrong, Brighton fans are as quick as anyone to turn against their own team when things go badly. I think he was surprised by that.

I don't see any world where he'd expect Chelsea fans to behave sensibly when they lose or draw a game.

 

[Justice]

Dunk was very professional and diplomatic.

Also noticed a few, shall we say, less than emotional hugs from players after the game, MacA notably. A professional but f*** you reaction.

I wondered about Ali Mac when he signed the new deal strange he made his mind up with RDZ and not with Potter although we don’t know the full story.

 

[Icy Gull]

I don't think he will, no.

I think when he came to Brighton and understood the history of the club, he thought maybe that the struggles of the past would have made the Brighton fans more tolerant, like not booing their own team after a draw. Its not a strange thing to assume, people who have been through shit are quite often able to deal with the non-perfections in life in a sensible manner. Hence the "history lesson" comment. Obviously he was wrong, Brighton fans are as quick as anyone to turn against their own team when things go badly. I think he was surprised by that.

I don't see any world where he'd expect Chelsea fans to behave sensibly when they lose or draw a game.

ONE game when a few booed in frustration, you are as bad as the media. Name me a PL club that never get a few boos after a disappointing performance?

You are coming across as needy as he could be when questioned

 

[Swansman]

ONE game when a few booed in frustration, you are as bad as the media. Name me a PL club that never get a few boos after a disappointing performance?

You are coming across as needy as he could be when questioned

We can say it was one game if it suits your narrative and we can say someone like Adam Webster didn't get a lot of shit for playing short-passing football etc.
We can also pretend that no-one here was bothered by boos and Potter-out-signs and shit, but in reality there was plenty of people who seemed more or equally annoyed by it as GP was... but obviously this is a time to rearrange history neatly so that all Brighton fans are superduper-supportive superfans and that GP is a coldhearted villain, but that certainly wasn't how me, you and plenty of others saw it at the time.

As for other PL clubs, yeah maybe. Who gives a shit? He probably thought you were special and unique and not like other PL clubs and wouldn't bo a draw after a decent performance. Hence his surprise.

 

[Justice]

Ok so his words didn't please anyone but how does that make him any different from you or me?

Why would he say the things you mentioned after getting booed? Why is he supposed to kneel down and say how much he respects you etc. when you don't respect him? It makes no sense.

Potter getting defensive meant it got to him, job done.

 

[Weststander]

I don't think he will, no.

I think when he came to Brighton and understood the history of the club, he thought maybe that the struggles of the past would have made the Brighton fans more tolerant, like not booing their own team after a draw. Its not a strange thing to assume, people who have been through shit are quite often able to deal with the non-perfections in life in a sensible manner. Hence the "history lesson" comment. Obviously he was wrong, Brighton fans are as quick as anyone to turn against their own team when things go badly. I think he was surprised by that.

I don't see any world where he'd expect Chelsea fans to behave sensibly when they lose or draw a game.

The ridiculous thing about the infamous Leeds booing was that out of a home section of 28,000, say 14,000 left at final whistle, just a few hundred booed. Then that might’ve been against the players, Potter or simply fed up with yet another fruitless 4 or 5 hour trip to the Amex.

Shirley a expert on cognitive thinking would rationalise that the overwhelming majority didn’t boo. Positive thinking.

But he idiotically made a big thing of it on the night and the next day.