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[Albion] Potter in or out or fence

Potter in or out

  • In

    Votes: 291 65.0%
  • Out

    Votes: 98 21.9%
  • Fence

    Votes: 59 13.2%

  • Total voters
    448


Jeremiah

John 14 : 6
Mar 15, 2020
2,527
Hove
People are angry that we narrowly lost a match to a top three team that we'd never have got within spitting distance of in the past?

I think people are angry at the manner in which we faded in the second half and looked out of ideas and puff. Plus this came on the back of defeats against lowly Palace and West Brom and the erosion of a 10 point gap to relegation. It kinda makes you angry
 




KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
1,829
The argument that the blame lies with the players for letting down the manager is one that seems to absolve Potter from blame. The claim that he is too good for our club takes this nonsense to the next level and is an insult to our club. The buck stops with Potter, responsibility lies with him.

Of course it’s about the players too. How can it all just be the manager, that’s nuts, the players play the 90mins, how can they be absolved of blame in the same way you’re saying the manager can’t - doesn’t make sense!?
 




boik

Well-known member
I think people are angry at the manner in which we faded in the second half and looked out of ideas and puff. Plus this came on the back of defeats against lowly Palace and West Brom and the erosion of a 10 point gap to relegation. It kinda makes you angry

You ask my wife how angry I was at the end. That doesn't negate the fact that the first half was right up there as a performance. I was so proud of the speed and cleverness of some of our play. It wouldn't have been unjust if Lallana had a hat trick.
 






Jeremiah

John 14 : 6
Mar 15, 2020
2,527
Hove
You ask my wife how angry I was at the end. That doesn't negate the fact that the first half was right up there as a performance. I was so proud of the speed and cleverness of some of our play. It wouldn't have been unjust if Lallana had a hat trick.

I agree that the first half performance was very good. What I don't understand is the drop off in the second half. Lallana admitted that the team thought and acted as if the game was won at half time. That is bizarre . I would have thought that we would have upped our work rate and closing down in the second half to hold onto the lead against a side deprived of several first team players and having played mid week when we rested.

Unfortunately speed and cleverness of play in one half counts for nothing and the whole situation makes me angry . Not helped by a manager who doesn't seem to care and comes out with the same tired excuses and vague half hearted optimism after each defeat.
 


Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Of course it’s about the players too. How can it all just be the manager, that’s nuts, the players play the 90mins, how can they be absolved of blame in the same way you’re saying the manager can’t - doesn’t make sense!?

There are deficiencies in the team but that is the manager’s responsibility. He has a huge say in recruitment. He is the Head Coach and he selects the team. If we need more solidity he can tweak the tactics both pre and intra game. The players as individuals cannot do much about this situation. If they could then we wouldn’t need a manager. I have never before seen a manager of BHA so immune from criticism from a section of the fanbase as Potter seems to be. I want him to succeed but denying his current failings is not going to help.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
The argument that the blame lies with the players for letting down the manager is one that seems to absolve Potter from blame. The claim that he is too good for our club takes this nonsense to the next level and is an insult to our club. The buck stops with Potter, responsibility lies with him. Playing good football in the middle third of the field is not sufficient.

Its a team sport, not tennis or arm wrestling, 25+ people are responsible for both wins and losses.
 




KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
1,829
There are deficiencies in the team but that is the manager’s responsibility. He has a huge say in recruitment. He is the Head Coach and he selects the team. If we need more solidity he can tweak the tactics both pre and intra game. The players as individuals cannot do much about this situation. If they could then we wouldn’t need a manager. I have never before seen a manager of BHA so immune from criticism from a section of the fanbase as Potter seems to be. I want him to succeed but denying his current failings is not going to help.

Where are you getting this from, just NSC? Loudest voices seem to be for his removal across social media. What’s this section of the fan base, 100 people on here, some of whom aren’t even fans? :shrug:
 


nordicgod

Top banana
Jul 21, 2011
914
polegate
If you were in another job with performance like that , I think you would be monitored and put on special measures from above , no improvement then out the door , he should have gone at Xmas time , too late now as Captain Potter and first officers are staying with the sinking ship . Shame really as at times we do look very good , but all fur coat and no knickers .
 


Jolly Red Giant

Well-known member
Jul 11, 2015
2,615
Deep doo-doo territory now after Fulham's win (and the momentum is with them).

The next two games will be crucial for Potter and the team.
 




vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
And once again the majority of NSC prove to be calm, sound, level headed and not knee jerk on the back of short term results.

Despite the false impression given by the same loud voices NSC is clearly Potter IN.
 


KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
1,829
Deep doo-doo territory now after Fulham's win (and the momentum is with them).

The next two games will be crucial for Potter and the team.

It’s not just Fulham. Newcastle and Burnley very much in the mix. Newcastle were poor today, very little intent. We have a massive game coming up against them. The quintessential relegation 6 pointer.
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
55,564
Burgess Hill
The argument that the blame lies with the players for letting down the manager is one that seems to absolve Potter from blame. The claim that he is too good for our club takes this nonsense to the next level and is an insult to our club. The buck stops with Potter, responsibility lies with him. Playing good football in the middle third of the field is not sufficient.

Only if you’re anti-Potter and it then suits your agenda perhaps. It’s not a single factor that’s causing the lack of points for me - it’s a combination including some tactical (I still can’t for the life of me understand Ali J being brought on) and possibly motivational (that will be mainly at Potter’s door but also we seemingly lack leadership on the pitch - I don’t see or hear Dunky enough as captain), injuries, player concentration, players either out of touch or not good enough (recruitment issue), no fans, some bad luck etc etc. If you’re going down that route the buck stops with Tony for appointing him - in which case it doesn’t matter because it’s his club and he can do what he wants.......

It doesn’t absolve Potter from blame for me at all, it’s just that he’s not the only one responsible. He wouldn’t have known Welbeck was going to jog around and do **** all when he came on yesterday or that Sanchez was going to have his first big brainfart and cost us a point. How do you legislate for that as a coach ?

If Tony wants a change of manager that’s fine with me but a) I don’t think he will even if we drop and b) I have no idea who I’d want in to replace him.
 






Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Where are you getting this from, just NSC? Loudest voices seem to be for his removal across social media. What’s this section of the fan base, 100 people on here, some of whom aren’t even fans? :shrug:

Just NSC, yes. I know there are equally loud voices calling for his removal. You’re right, it’s really just a handful of people. I’m just irritated by 3 successive defeats and then reading how wonderful our manager is.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,553
Deepest, darkest Sussex
And once again the majority of NSC prove to be calm, sound, level headed and not knee jerk on the back of short term results.

Despite the false impression given by the same loud voices NSC is clearly Potter IN.

The Hughton polls also showed a majority In too.
 


Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Only if you’re anti-Potter and it then suits your agenda perhaps. It’s not a single factor that’s causing the lack of points for me - it’s a combination including some tactical (I still can’t for the life of me understand Ali J being brought on) and possibly motivational (that will be mainly at Potter’s door but also we seemingly lack leadership on the pitch - I don’t see or hear Dunky enough as captain), injuries, player concentration, players either out of touch or not good enough (recruitment issue), no fans, some bad luck etc etc. If you’re going down that route the buck stops with Tony for appointing him - in which case it doesn’t matter because it’s his club and he can do what he wants.......

It doesn’t absolve Potter from blame for me at all, it’s just that he’s not the only one responsible. He wouldn’t have known Welbeck was going to jog around and do **** all when he came on yesterday or that Sanchez was going to have his first big brainfart and cost us a point. How do you legislate for that as a coach ?

If Tony wants a change of manager that’s fine with me but a) I don’t think he will even if we drop and b) I have no idea who I’d want in to replace him.

Disagree. Tony is the owner, the majority shareholder. He appoints a manager to take the responsibility.
 




Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
20,684
Born In Shoreham
And once again the majority of NSC prove to be calm, sound, level headed and not knee jerk on the back of short term results.

Despite the false impression given by the same loud voices NSC is clearly Potter IN.
Unfortunately I’ve said for weeks I could see this coming goal difference now separates us from the bottom three that’s happened over a season not short term results. Whilst you tried to say I was wrong after Liverpool offering an imaginary olive branch I agreed a great win although we are very capable of not winning for the next ten games and unfortunately again we are following that path.
 
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