Nahh mate of course any band the sings "WE ALL LIVE IN A YELLOW SUBMARINE" are really knife edge
No malice meant
Its good marketing. Get them as kids....same with Thomas the Tank engine.
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Its good marketing. Get them as kids....same with Thomas the Tank engine.
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Don Quixote
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Nahh mate of course any band the sings "WE ALL LIVE IN A YELLOW SUBMARINE" are really knife edge
No malice meant
A song about an LSD trip though...
coventrygull
the right one
Anyone ever heard the original version of Get Back
Insel affe
HellBilly
Yeah i know, However again they aint the first are they, there are countless blues & rock`n`roll, rockabilly even country songs about drugs/sex/ and murder recorded in the 50s and earlier. Big deal..........Not the first & they wont be the last.
Lord Bracknell
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The one with the verse about the 19 Pakistanis living in a council flat?
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coventrygull
the right one
I thought one of the lines was pakistanis stealing all the jobs. Beatles racist well I never
KZNSeagull
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Any of you lot read "Outliers" by Malcolm Gladwell?
In it he discusses the success of the Beatles. He puts their success (and those of many others) down to a combination of talent, practice, opportunity, timing and luck.
Essentially, had the Beatles not been invited to play in Hamburg in 1960, they would almost certainly not have had the chance to play 270 nights for 3 to 5 hours a night in a year and a half, thus honing their craft. By the time they became a success in the US in 1964, they had played live an estimated 1200 times!! They also learnt a huge amount of cover versions to fill the huge time slots they were given in Hamburg. By the time Sgt Pepper came out (which is supposed to be their masterpiece), they had probably played/practiced for 10,000 hours, which is the key amount of time Gladwell found it takes for someone to become a master in their particular art.
John Peel says in his autobiography that it was pure luck that he listened to some of the bands he ended up promoting. He was sent thousands of demo tapes and could not listen to them all, so he just used to choose randomly.
So, to have success, you have to have some talent (obviously), but you also have to be in the right place at the right time and take all the opportunities presented to you. And practice, a lot. I'm sure there were far more talented bands around than the Beatles at that time, but it was the Beatles who were given the opportunity and used that to their best advantage.
But the other interesting thing Gladwell points out, is that if you want your child to have the best chance to be a top sportsperson, make sure they are born in the first month of the school calendar. So get planning.
In it he discusses the success of the Beatles. He puts their success (and those of many others) down to a combination of talent, practice, opportunity, timing and luck.
Essentially, had the Beatles not been invited to play in Hamburg in 1960, they would almost certainly not have had the chance to play 270 nights for 3 to 5 hours a night in a year and a half, thus honing their craft. By the time they became a success in the US in 1964, they had played live an estimated 1200 times!! They also learnt a huge amount of cover versions to fill the huge time slots they were given in Hamburg. By the time Sgt Pepper came out (which is supposed to be their masterpiece), they had probably played/practiced for 10,000 hours, which is the key amount of time Gladwell found it takes for someone to become a master in their particular art.
John Peel says in his autobiography that it was pure luck that he listened to some of the bands he ended up promoting. He was sent thousands of demo tapes and could not listen to them all, so he just used to choose randomly.
So, to have success, you have to have some talent (obviously), but you also have to be in the right place at the right time and take all the opportunities presented to you. And practice, a lot. I'm sure there were far more talented bands around than the Beatles at that time, but it was the Beatles who were given the opportunity and used that to their best advantage.
But the other interesting thing Gladwell points out, is that if you want your child to have the best chance to be a top sportsperson, make sure they are born in the first month of the school calendar. So get planning.
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Far better if they had not been Scouse!
Bevendean Hillbilly
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I sense an agenda here...Rockabilly & Rock'n'Roll..Buddy Holly..Pat Boone..Johnny Burnette..Are you a Teddy boy with a big Quiff and a Bass Guitar made out of a broom handle and a tea chest by any chance?
The Beatlesnalways awknowleged that the early part of their career was influenced heavily by Buddy Holly and American Rock'n'Roll as well as Skiffle and early backbeat and blues..the difference was they took those styles and INNOVATED away from them making them much more intrumental in taking music further.
The Artists you mentioned developed a style of playing and a look (just as important IMO) and stuck with it. The Beatles adopted different styles and genres throughout their brief time at the top to the extent that no two albums are stylistically the same.
Personally I am not a massive fan of the Beatles although I do own most of their works, but I accept that they moved music on in many different areas far more than anyone else (including Elvis and the Stones) and I don't think we will really see their like again.
Insel affe
HellBilly
Nope im an old Psychobilly gone bald and can only play the mouth organ. Anyway your missing my point. The above artists as i said like Buddy Holly..Pat Boone..Johnny Burnette etc had already started to move away from the rock n roll and were already doing stuff the beatles proggresed even further ie harmony music and catchy choruses etc.They had moved on as had Elvis, even cliff richard etc etc. So again the Beatles were not doing anything new and they also stole so much from Rory storm and the hurricanes (even ringo i think ?). I dont want to argue with a fellow Hillbilly
anyway have a smashing weekend
clapham_gull
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Apart from a huge chunk of royalties going to the Jackson Estate from the new box set, there have something else in common with the single gloved one...
.. both rubbish live.
.. both rubbish live.