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Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
57,286
Back in Sussex
Please, please stop these 2+2=768 accusations.

I’m in hospital with my mum and simply don’t have the time right now to protect people from themselves when they throw around unfounded accusations.

I don’t want to shut discussion of this inportent subject down. I don’t want to ban people from the site to protect themselves from libelling their way to financial ruin. But I will if I have to.

The club are rightfully very protective of their employees, like all organisations should be, and I know they are unlikely to hesitate taking all required steps they need to follow as part of that.

Let the inquiry run its course, and the police do their job.
 


schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
10,346
Mid mid mid Sussex

I'm slightly concerned that we haven't "let him go". For a club that is rightfully concerned about its reputation and "doing the right thing", I think there are very few that would say that by employing this fella they are doing the "right thing".

Oh wait! At the end of the article he said he was "sorry". And as we know, that makes everything ok. As you were.
Has he personally been found to have done anything illegal/immoral, or was he just getting his hands dirty at the behest of higher-ups?


Edit: sorry, Bozza posted whilst I was composing. I won't delete, but happy that we don't continue the conversation.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
Has he personally been found to have done anything illegal/immoral, or was he just getting his hands dirty at the behest of higher-ups?
Nothing at all that I'm aware of.

Is it possible that individual hands-on investigators did not know the extent of the Horizon issues, as they were handed case after case to investigate? Maybe, maybe not - simply none of us know. It could be the case that higher levels of management, where there clearly was knowledge, did not cascade that down to the rank-and-file.

And just because someone is alleged to have been unpleasant and aggressive in the way they went about their work, again it doesn't mean they had knowledge of the underlying Horizon issues.

I completely understand that some people are unhappy about their interactions with the club and, in many cases, I'm massively sympathetic to that. And I know that those same people have a greater interest in this story because of what they see as a common link.

But we have to be careful of finding people guilty by association.
 








bhafc99

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Oct 14, 2003
7,455
Dubai
Please, please stop these 2+2=768 accusations.

I’m in hospital with my mum and simply don’t have the time right now to protect people from themselves when they throw around unfounded accusations.

I don’t want to shut discussion of this inportent subject down. I don’t want to ban people from the site to protect themselves from libelling their way to financial ruin. But I will if I have to.

The club are rightfully very protective of their employees, like all organisations should be, and I know they are unlikely to hesitate taking all required steps they need to follow as part of that.

Let the inquiry run its course, and the police do their job.
Hope your mum’s ok mate. You shouldn’t be having to worry about NSC right now.
 






Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,135
Goldstone
I've done my research and this whole scandal was caused by Bozza. He should be behind bars.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Cook and Crozier denying they knew anything about the issue and prosecutions somewhat shows up how useless they were at their jobs.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
28,272
Can this inquiry actually lead to any prosecutions to those at the Post Office senior management ?
The real scandal is the delay in compensating and exonerating the Sub-Postmasters. As ever with government scandals, an inquiry is slowly done with its conclusions kicked as far down the road as possible so that by the time we get there, we have all " moved on " and many of the victims are dead.

This means little shit sticks to the government and the financial compensation is delayed/reduced. This has happened time and time again in my lifetime and will continue ad infinitum.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Cook and Crozier denying they knew anything about the issue and prosecutions somewhat shows up how useless they were at their jobs.
It's the easy option, and, they will get away with it as ever.
 






Miximate

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Aug 30, 2012
1,193
Mid Sussex
Rodric Williams (PO Lawyer) being absolutely hung drawn and quartered by the skillful KC Jason Beer! Its akin to death by 1000 cuts!!
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Just reading the updates on the BBC from PO Legal Counsel. Paula Vennells really does belong in prison .... and long may she rot there.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,267
Withdean area
A bad day for Chris Aujard, the PO’s senior inhouse lawyer until 2015, and for Vennell. They were made aware by their external forensic investigators that Horizon was creating false ‘funds’ at sub post offices, yet they carried on regardless, thus defrauding the sub post office masters. For their troubles, the firm were sacked.
 




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