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Eh? I can understand the other two but Hilaire was a fine player though it pains me to say it.
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Eh? I can understand the other two but Hilaire was a fine player though it pains me to say it.
shaolinpunk
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I don't know where we'll finish this season, but I'll be suprised if it's not above Pompey
Seagull over Canaryland
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The sour tone of that review rather sums up Pompey's rather stilted view of the world - i.e. they cannot face they are rapidly subsiding into football mediocrity and can only cling on to the fading black and white memories of brief success from the middle of the last century.
In the eyes of the wider football community their FA Cup 'win' does not count because it was bought on the backs of their creditors by a fraudulent and cynical club, when in reality they should have gone out of business and their directors should have been disqualified.
I have a degree of sympathy for some of their core of proud and loyal fans. Like many others I was shocked at the poor turnout by the home fans for a local derby at the beginning of the season - and by a set of fans who almost rival our standard for remaining loyal through thick and thin.
I do not want to see clubs go out of business as it is the loyal fans that really suffer so had some hopes for them that their latest reincarnation might be turning things around. However there was not much evidence of a fresh beginning, being barely able to field a full bench of subs and having to parade the re-signing of an octegenarian striker. This is not a sign that they have serious pretensions at survival - let alone making an impact on the Championship. Everything about the club, team and Fratton Park itself speaks more of another accident waiting to happen than for an exciting future. £30 for a 'seat' and the most antiquated facilities this side of the Taylor Report is not going to be a turn on. We somehow survived the Priestfield and Withdean years and now have a proper stadium to welcome home and away fans. Pompey had years of Premiership income but failed to create a ground worthy of their status as a series of JCL foreign owners came and went. It is rather sad that they are now left with no tangible legacy other than a few memories and a decrepid ground. Further more there is not much sign of meaningful investment in the club, team or ground by the new owners. They need to get rid of the lingering stench of decay (not just from the so called WCs) that everything is well past its sell by date and look to the future.
Saturday's performance on the pitch was yet another metaphor for their decline - so much for their pre-match hype about gaining revenge for their woeful Cup defeat at Withdean. Their overpaid former Premiership 'stars' failed to deliver (again) and just resorted to kicking their opponents up in the air, on and off the pitch. Their disciplinary record this season speaks volumes about their attitude rather than ability. League 1 looks more than a strong possibility and no guarantee they will survive among the fittest there either. Can see Bournemouth waving in pity as they take Pompey's place in the Championship. Fratton Park will barely chime for their local derbies against the likes of Yeovil, Crawley or Aldershot.
Poor Steve Cotterill - I can understand him feeling obliged to talk up his 'team's performance' in his post match assessment, and trying to find some positives. However he and some of his more blinkered fans are seriously deluded to think they deserved anything from the game, even in spite of our gift of a penalty, which they failed to convert. Our squad has been together less than his, we have not fielded the same XI twice this season, we have several long term injuries and were disrupted by more during the game. We do not have any over-hyped ex-Premiership players to show us how to play the game. We were playing away so not as expansive as we might and anyway we naturally look to keep the ball which is our style of play (remember Withdean?), rather than just hoof it about. Even so (and as acknowledged by the more honest assessments on the Pompey forums) we made several close chances. Yes - we rightly look for the ref's protection when constantly kicked up in the air on and off the ball especially when the ref fails to to clamp down. SC's team was supposed to be playing at home and making the running - not much evidence of that from the match stats, other than for their disciplinary record. It is early days for us in the Championship and we have had a positive start. We recognise we may not be the strongest side and will 'give it a go' and enjoy the ride on the rollercoaster. The worst years are now behind us and we are setting out to re-establish ourselves on and off the pitch. The next step is a state of the art training complex and academy.
It must hurt Pompey fans to see the other South Coast Clubs enjoying so many days in the sunshine while only having a pair of very rosy glasses to try to brighten up their cloud of gloom.
In the eyes of the wider football community their FA Cup 'win' does not count because it was bought on the backs of their creditors by a fraudulent and cynical club, when in reality they should have gone out of business and their directors should have been disqualified.
I have a degree of sympathy for some of their core of proud and loyal fans. Like many others I was shocked at the poor turnout by the home fans for a local derby at the beginning of the season - and by a set of fans who almost rival our standard for remaining loyal through thick and thin.
I do not want to see clubs go out of business as it is the loyal fans that really suffer so had some hopes for them that their latest reincarnation might be turning things around. However there was not much evidence of a fresh beginning, being barely able to field a full bench of subs and having to parade the re-signing of an octegenarian striker. This is not a sign that they have serious pretensions at survival - let alone making an impact on the Championship. Everything about the club, team and Fratton Park itself speaks more of another accident waiting to happen than for an exciting future. £30 for a 'seat' and the most antiquated facilities this side of the Taylor Report is not going to be a turn on. We somehow survived the Priestfield and Withdean years and now have a proper stadium to welcome home and away fans. Pompey had years of Premiership income but failed to create a ground worthy of their status as a series of JCL foreign owners came and went. It is rather sad that they are now left with no tangible legacy other than a few memories and a decrepid ground. Further more there is not much sign of meaningful investment in the club, team or ground by the new owners. They need to get rid of the lingering stench of decay (not just from the so called WCs) that everything is well past its sell by date and look to the future.
Saturday's performance on the pitch was yet another metaphor for their decline - so much for their pre-match hype about gaining revenge for their woeful Cup defeat at Withdean. Their overpaid former Premiership 'stars' failed to deliver (again) and just resorted to kicking their opponents up in the air, on and off the pitch. Their disciplinary record this season speaks volumes about their attitude rather than ability. League 1 looks more than a strong possibility and no guarantee they will survive among the fittest there either. Can see Bournemouth waving in pity as they take Pompey's place in the Championship. Fratton Park will barely chime for their local derbies against the likes of Yeovil, Crawley or Aldershot.
Poor Steve Cotterill - I can understand him feeling obliged to talk up his 'team's performance' in his post match assessment, and trying to find some positives. However he and some of his more blinkered fans are seriously deluded to think they deserved anything from the game, even in spite of our gift of a penalty, which they failed to convert. Our squad has been together less than his, we have not fielded the same XI twice this season, we have several long term injuries and were disrupted by more during the game. We do not have any over-hyped ex-Premiership players to show us how to play the game. We were playing away so not as expansive as we might and anyway we naturally look to keep the ball which is our style of play (remember Withdean?), rather than just hoof it about. Even so (and as acknowledged by the more honest assessments on the Pompey forums) we made several close chances. Yes - we rightly look for the ref's protection when constantly kicked up in the air on and off the ball especially when the ref fails to to clamp down. SC's team was supposed to be playing at home and making the running - not much evidence of that from the match stats, other than for their disciplinary record. It is early days for us in the Championship and we have had a positive start. We recognise we may not be the strongest side and will 'give it a go' and enjoy the ride on the rollercoaster. The worst years are now behind us and we are setting out to re-establish ourselves on and off the pitch. The next step is a state of the art training complex and academy.
It must hurt Pompey fans to see the other South Coast Clubs enjoying so many days in the sunshine while only having a pair of very rosy glasses to try to brighten up their cloud of gloom.
turienzo's lovechild
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- Oct 25, 2003
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exactly, i don't want to hear ANY moaning from them about the size of their squad...........errm, how about you buy MORE players on LOWER wages to make a BIGGER squad?
it's so f***ing simple, it's like they've learnt nothing
Hunting 784561
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- Jul 8, 2003
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Nice post.
saafend_seagull
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average at best? yet gives their goalkeeper MOM.
God knows what would have happened if Hoskins, Lua Lua and Buckley (for more than 20 mins) had been on the pitch!
God knows what would have happened if Hoskins, Lua Lua and Buckley (for more than 20 mins) had been on the pitch!
ROSM
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I think you've missed martin Kuhl - one of the few players to have been sent off twice against us.
As for Hilaire, I think you're being harsh. he was as I recall a sporting player who used to go and get the ball when it had been kicked away. i remember him once doing that in front of the north stand when he kicked the ball as the whistle went. he went and got it despite getting dogs abuse from the albion fans.
Lush
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I like this bit.
magoo
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That, i would love to have seen! They were beaten by a weakened Albion side.
Kalimantan Gull
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I think that article is spot on.
There are a lot of people denying it on here, but we ARE a team that goes down easily, makes a meal of challenges, has team-mates rushing in to confront the opposition and the ref after any strong tackle, tries to get people booked and has a manager who throws his toys out of the pram at least once a game.
and this has to be deliberate because we are also a team that gets fouled loads because of our style of play. We're not a team of strongmen so if we didn't do this we would get muscled out of many games at this level, including the one just gone at Portsmouth. It can't be any coincidence that all three of our games have been niggly affairs with loads of flashpoints, players having to be separated and nasty tackles flying in. You could perhaps expect it with Pompey, but Donny? Gillingham? There is a definite Uruguayan feel to our play right now.
No, this is who we are and we won't be popular for it but its necessary in the face of bullyboy tactics like portsmouth displayed
There are a lot of people denying it on here, but we ARE a team that goes down easily, makes a meal of challenges, has team-mates rushing in to confront the opposition and the ref after any strong tackle, tries to get people booked and has a manager who throws his toys out of the pram at least once a game.
and this has to be deliberate because we are also a team that gets fouled loads because of our style of play. We're not a team of strongmen so if we didn't do this we would get muscled out of many games at this level, including the one just gone at Portsmouth. It can't be any coincidence that all three of our games have been niggly affairs with loads of flashpoints, players having to be separated and nasty tackles flying in. You could perhaps expect it with Pompey, but Donny? Gillingham? There is a definite Uruguayan feel to our play right now.
No, this is who we are and we won't be popular for it but its necessary in the face of bullyboy tactics like portsmouth displayed
eastlondonseagull
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Kitson should have been sent off, from reports I've heard from people at the game. Sour grapes it is 
Bwian
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- Jul 14, 2003
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I think that the latter influences the former-and rightly so. Why should our players get seven bells kicked of themselves and then not defend their team-mates? If teams think that the way to stop us is to turn games into clogging and battering our play-makers then they should also expect the consequences. I think it has nothing to do with us having a Uruguayan feel and all to do with us trying to play cultured football which some teams can only deal with in an agricultural way.
It show what solidarity there is within the squad and that is great to see.
Bwian
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- Jul 14, 2003
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Kitson should have been sent off, from reports I've heard from people at the game. Sour grapes it is
Kitson received one yellow card-he should have received a second one (two additional instances, each worthy of his second yellow). It should be good when he turns up at The Amex for the second round.
Hunting 784561
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To be fair, we are now also starting to dish it back.
That's the reality of life in the Championship. Dunk's challenge on Sharpe v Donny was a good example.
We want to play football the proper way, but if teams start to dish it out to us, they will get it back.
That's the reality of life in the Championship. Dunk's challenge on Sharpe v Donny was a good example.
We want to play football the proper way, but if teams start to dish it out to us, they will get it back.
Kalimantan Gull
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Absolutely, and that was my point, if rather poorly made! We will get tackled hard, and so we try and make them seem like fouls and get players booked in order to reduce the number of hard tackles on us. Its probably the only way we can make our style work in this division, but it will make us seem like 'diving cheats' to a lot of other teams, so we may as well get used to it
Joey Deacon's Disco Suit
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- Apr 19, 2010
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With regard to Pompey controlling things? With regard to them deserving a point? Us scoring against the run of play? That article is a curate's egg at best.
Bwian
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- Jul 14, 2003
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I'm already used to it-and I'm loving it.
Can't wait to see Palace down to 9 men at The Amex, should piss their fans off quite nicely in preparation for their 60 minute wait after the final whistle before being let out. 
Kalimantan Gull
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It doesn't exactly say that though. It says:
"On one level Pompey probably deserved a point from the game. Despite a disjointed performance, they carved out a couple of decent chances which on another day might have gone in.
That said, there was never a time where you felt Pompey were in charge of the game."
Did they deserve a point? Possibly, they did have 11 shots to our 3, plus a penalty, and the game was nowhere near being one-sided. The first half an hour was all Portsmouth, although our goal came after we had started to take control of the midfield, so not exactly against the run of the play. Our best football was in the first half and our of the second half though, but we only had one shot, Noone's curler, which was disappointing considering how much good possession we had in midfield.
I'm not convinced the author of that was at the game, Brighton scored against the run of play! From where I was I standing, the only bit of the game that belonged to Pompey was the final 10 minutes.
You can see why they're miffed though, Saturday was supposed to be all about putting us in our place and it didn't even come close to happening. Why they had spare seats for the first home game of the season, when they were playing a team from just along the coast is a sign that things are really not good at Portsmouth.
You can see why they're miffed though, Saturday was supposed to be all about putting us in our place and it didn't even come close to happening. Why they had spare seats for the first home game of the season, when they were playing a team from just along the coast is a sign that things are really not good at Portsmouth.