Police drop Clattenburg enquiry

[Dandyman]

Well he would surely have a case for loss of earnings apart from anything. Abramovich better dust off his cheque book

Fair point although I don't see the Meyer Lansky of Fulham Broadway handing over any dosh just yet.

 

[BensGrandad]

Well he would surely have a case for loss of earnings apart from anything. Abramovich better dust off his cheque book

Wouldnt the FA just say that he wasnt allocated a game so lost no money and that refs aren't guaranteed a game every week.

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Whoever made it a "police" matter should be arrested for wasting police time

What a load of bollox

Typical of the PC world we now live in

Those paragons of virtue, The Society of Black Lawyers, I believe. Dropped a bollock there, didn't they?

 

[BensGrandad]

Those paragons of virtue, The Society of Black Lawyers, I believe. Dropped a bollock there, didn't they?

As I think they have with the latest about the name of Tottenham Supporters Y.. Army

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Indeed they did. The more rubbish they spout, the quicker they lose any credibility they might have had. Seriously think the OB should charge them for wasting their time. No doubt Jason Roberts & Rio would organise a whip round to cover their costs!

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

The police case was based upon a complaint made by someone who hasn't even seen the incident.

The Met had launched an investigation following a complaint lodged by the Society for Black Lawyers, based on reports of the incident rather than any evidence.

The very same people who are attempting to have a black only union, a worrying bunch.

Because there has been no police complaint from a victim there's no case to answer unlike the official complaint to the FA from Chelsea

 

[Czechmate]

Those paragons of virtue, The Society of Black Lawyers, I believe. Dropped a bollock there, didn't they?

I was reading the thread and it was my thoughts as well , just going to write then see your comments ! They're just an (alleged) bunch of jobsworth twats .

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

I think they're more sinister than that.

 

[DT Withdean]

Clattenburg's name and reputation rubbished by a bad-losing (as they have been many times in the last 7 years) club.

There should be serious consequences against that Club, if he is found to wholly innocent.

 

[beorhthelm]

from article in the Standard,its clear that Chelsea are beginning damage limitiation on this. their line is that players heard a comment, were anoyed by it wanted some sort of explaination and the situation escalated. reading between the lines the media picked up on the discussion and it escalated beyond control. if the club hadnt made a complaint, would there have been a story about that the next day? we'll never know.

however there is a factor ignored in all this, that Clattenberg is a bit of a twat. so he is supposed to of said "i dont give a monkeys", why would he even say such a thing? at a time when we are suppose to advocating respect of refs, why is one using such disrespectful language, irrespective of the context meant. (ah, context, funny old thing that)

 

[Bold Seagull]

from article in the Standard,its clear that Chelsea are beginning damage limitiation on this. their line is that players heard a comment, were anoyed by it wanted some sort of explaination and the situation escalated. reading between the lines the media picked up on the discussion and it escalated beyond control. if the club hadnt made a complaint, would there have been a story about that the next day? we'll never know.

however there is a factor ignored in all this, that Clattenberg is a bit of a twat. so he is supposed to of said "i dont give a monkeys", why would he even say such a thing? at a time when we are suppose to advocating respect of refs, why is one using such disrespectful language, irrespective of the context meant. (ah, context, funny old thing that)

Wow, what a spin on it, have you sent this into Bruce Buck and the CFC PR team?

 

[RNSeagull]

Originally Posted by beorhthelm
from article in the Standard,its clear that Chelsea are beginning damage limitiation on this. their line is that players heard a comment, were anoyed by it wanted some sort of explaination and the situation escalated. reading between the lines the media picked up on the discussion and it escalated beyond control. if the club hadnt made a complaint, would there have been a story about that the next day? we'll never know.

however there is a factor ignored in all this, that Clattenberg is a bit of a twat. so he is supposed to of said "i dont give a monkeys", why would he even say such a thing? at a time when we are suppose to advocating respect of refs, why is one using such disrespectful language, irrespective of the context meant. (ah, context, funny old thing that)


You What?
I got asked at work yesterday if I wanted a cup of tea or coffee, I replied that "I didnt give a monkeys!" was a being disrespectful to the tea makers? A bit flippant perhaps but hardly enough to warrant my boss launching a enquiry (and yes the afore mentioned tea maker was black.) Maybe someone who wasn't even there but heard about this from their mum's friends, mates, brother should have reported me to the police? - and in your world Clattenberg is in the wrong because "he's a bit of a twat", so deserves to be formally interviewed by the old bill and suspended from work for the best part of a month?

 

[Common as Mook]

It's amazing that now Chelsea are on the receiving end of alleged abuse and are in fact the complainants in this case, that people on here's stance changes.

Pre Suarez and Terry verdicts everyone was so worried about needing due process blah blah blah, well within their rights to make a complaint if they thought they heard something blah blah blah.....

Well, Chelsea didn't report this to the police, they reported it to the FA and the investigation is still on going. Seems like some are too blinded by hatred of one club or another to recognise this.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

from article in the Standard,its clear that Chelsea are beginning damage limitiation on this. their line is that players heard a comment, were anoyed by it wanted some sort of explaination and the situation escalated. reading between the lines the media picked up on the discussion and it escalated beyond control. if the club hadnt made a complaint, would there have been a story about that the next day? we'll never know.

however there is a factor ignored in all this, that Clattenberg is a bit of a twat. so he is supposed to of said "i dont give a monkeys", why would he even say such a thing? at a time when we are suppose to advocating respect of refs, why is one using such disrespectful language, irrespective of the context meant. (ah, context, funny old thing that)

If that's what he said, it's a perfectly reasonable response - it's quite restrained compared to the torrent of abuse they receive from some players.

 

[The Spanish]

It's amazing that now Chelsea are on the receiving end of alleged abuse and are in fact the complainants in this case, that people on here's stance changes.

Pre Suarez and Terry verdicts everyone was so worried about needing due process blah blah blah, well within their rights to make a complaint if they thought they heard something blah blah blah.....

Well, Chelsea didn't report this to the police, they reported it to the FA and the investigation is still on going. Seems like some are too blinded by hatred of one club or another to recognise this.

top and bottom of this is if you drop the race bomb then its a f***ing nightmare for someone on the recieving end thanks to our dickhead media and the sort of comments we see on here when people are so conditioned they say stuff like 'if its true he was racist he deserves his life wrecking', even when they have only theoretical ideas about race relations and the benefits of the extreme sensitivity about race we have drifted into rather than simply having legislation that protects people against discrimination, rather than being insulted, unpleasant as that may be.

the sort of stuff i have read on here sometimes, well meaning as it is, assists in creating this daft hysterical climate and does little for race relations, rather vindicates those with more sinister agendas and feelings of vindictiveness. an unfortunate side effect of legitimate attempts to create a fair society, and one borne of well meaning ignorance, often.

 

[El Presidente]

As I was going up the stair
I heard a racial slur that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish it would go away...

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's amazing that now Chelsea are on the receiving end of alleged abuse and are in fact the complainants in this case, that people on here's stance changes.

Pre Suarez and Terry verdicts everyone was so worried about needing due process blah blah blah, well within their rights to make a complaint if they thought they heard something blah blah blah.....

Well, Chelsea didn't report this to the police, they reported it to the FA and the investigation is still on going. Seems like some are too blinded by hatred of one club or another to recognise this.

The difference being, everyone saw both Suarez and Terry say the insults on numerous video's and TV repeats - and you didn't need to be professional lip-readers either! The evidence in both those cases wasn't really refuted, Suarez claimed a cultural difference, Terry admitted saying it but in a supposed different context.

What is different with this incident is everyone is all too aware that Chelsea were on the end of a couple of bad decisions, lost the game, and effectively lost the plot. 3 other mic'd officials didn't hear anything, it turns out it's probably only 1 or at best 2 players say they supposedly heard Clattenburg say something, and none of the camera's etc. can even work out at what point this was even supposed to have happened.

I doubt the investigation is still on going in reality, I suspect what is happening now is the FA working out what they are going to do with Chelsea. They have made a serious public allegation about the integrity of a match official, stormed the officials room after the game, all with seemingly no evidence whatsoever. They should have slept on it, allowed the emotions of the game to die down, and written to the FA explaining what they thought they 'might' have heard, not made a direct accusation. Instead it's announced publicly in the heat of the moment, one accusation has already been retracted and judging from Bruce Bucks statement yesterday, they already know they are in the shit over this one.

Perhaps you yourself are blinded, afterall, I seem to recall you do actually hate one particular club, so if the shoe fits....

 

[User removed 4]

It's amazing that now Chelsea are on the receiving end of alleged abuse and are in fact the complainants in this case, that people on here's stance changes.

Pre Suarez and Terry verdicts everyone was so worried about needing due process blah blah blah, well within their rights to make a complaint if they thought they heard something blah blah blah.....

Well, Chelsea didn't report this to the police, they reported it to the FA and the investigation is still on going. Seems like some are too blinded by hatred of one club or another to recognise this.

Bloody hell ! we agree for once, anyway , for what its worth i think the claims are probably wrong, the basis being that clattenburg wouldnt be so stupid, and mikel an african and ramires a brazilian , probably misheard clattenburg a geordie.

 

[Common as Mook]

The difference being, everyone saw both Suarez and Terry say the insults on numerous video's and TV repeats - and you didn't need to be professional lip-readers either! The evidence in both those cases wasn't really refuted, Suarez claimed a cultural difference, Terry admitted saying it but in a supposed different context.

What is different with this incident is everyone is all too aware that Chelsea were on the end of a couple of bad decisions, lost the game, and effectively lost the plot. 3 other mic'd officials didn't hear anything, it turns out it's probably only 1 or at best 2 players say they supposedly heard Clattenburg say something, and none of the camera's etc. can even work out at what point this was even supposed to have happened.

I doubt the investigation is still on going in reality, I suspect what is happening now is the FA working out what they are going to do with Chelsea. They have made a serious public allegation about the integrity of a match official, stormed the officials room after the game, all with seemingly no evidence whatsoever. They should have slept on it, allowed the emotions of the game to die down, and written to the FA explaining what they thought they 'might' have heard, not made a direct accusation. Instead it's announced publicly in the heat of the moment, one accusation has already been retracted and judging from Bruce Bucks statement yesterday, they already know they are in the shit over this one.

Perhaps you yourself are blinded, afterall, I seem to recall you do actually hate one particular club, so if the shoe fits....

Moving the goalposts as per usual. Difference here being I made no real comment on the Terry/Suarez cases whereas you were very vocal.

Issues like this will never be tackled properly until you remobve club partizanship (if that's a word) from the issue.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Moving the goalposts as per usual. Difference here being I made no real comment on the Terry/Suarez cases whereas you were very vocal.

Issues like this will never be tackled properly until you remobve club partizanship (if that's a word) from the issue.

Surprised you're getting involved then if the 2 previous incidents didn't interest you? I would have thought anyone commenting on the 2 previous cases through consistency would be also commentating on this case? Why do you believe this is a club thing? Even Bushy a Chelsea fan is in agreement that Chelsea have probably called it wrong. Not sure what your point is?