police dealing with incident on London bridge.,

[5mins-from-amex]

Well the **** in the blue rosette who knocked my door yesterday disagrees with you.
Much love x

Look at me.

 

[cloud]

You didn't answer my question.. If you genuinely think these people must have been taught evil from birth to commit such attacks, what were the mass murderers in America taught?

Probably brought up playing video games and watching TV, rather than interacting with family and society?

It's the parents' responsibilty to instill good values in their children, but many think they can delegate responsibility for bringing up their children to schools / government/ authorities.

As someone with Islamic family members, I have always been shocked by how young children are given war toys such as guns at a very young age.

It's a culture where life is expendable and replaceable, and where you are brought up NOT to think for yourself, but to do as the elders say.

I was critically ill in a muslim country, and was left to die on the basis that my mother could always have another child. Here, you would fight till the last minute for your children. It's just not the case with Islam.

 

[e77]

No there isn't, not one single 'what if'.

And, for what it's worth, the Catholics and the political wing of the republicans in Northern Ireland were always quick to condemn 'All violence' too. Meant bugger all though.

There is an awful lot of supposition in there.

Regardless, the scumbags who did this want division. They want a religious war to start. Concentrate on finding the bad guys, not pick on an entire religion.

 

[GT49er]

I agree, religion should be a private belief not a state sponsored indoctrination

Agree, sad as I will be to see the demise of many splendid C.of E. and Catholic churches which have served our community well for generations - and without producing Christian terrorists. It is a price we have to pay for years of excessive tolerance.

 

[dazzer6666]

You know what's cheered me up this morning? Reading that drinkers in Borough Market fought back last night by luzzing chairs and drinks at those *******s.

Luzzing chairs at terrorists. I'm genuinely very proud of my fellow Brits.

This, plus the fantastic police response - 8 minutes........and the pic of the guy running away - carrying his almost-full pint 'I paid six quid for this, I'm not leaving it'

I travel through London Bridge several times a week and often drink/eat in Borough Market. I'm not going to let these ****s stop me.

 

[Leighgull]

Sorry but there is a huge amount of what ifs in there. The Muslim organisations are usually the first to condemn these things.


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I challenge you this.

Sometime in the next few days there will be a vox pop in a Muslim area with a big crowd of beards in attendance. The debate will go thus.

"Of course we condemn these acts but this is not the fault of Islam this is the fault of a few militants who are nothing to do with Islam, we are a religion of peace. To blame Islam is racist and islamophobic, we are already doing enough" blah blah blah.

This is the same trite bullshit we listen to and clap like morons on question time every week these days.

enough. Enough.

Call it out for what it is. Mute the Muslim leaders trying to deflect all criticism, challenge the apologists. Tell them to moderate, abandon this insane cult and get with Britain or clear off to sand land. Islam is not tolerant. It is responsible for the huge spike in anti semitism and outright carnage on our streets. Get out.

 

[5mins-from-amex]

There is an awful lot of supposition in there.

Regardless, the scumbags who did this want division. They want a religious war to start. Concentrate on finding the bad guys, not pick on an entire religion.

Whatever the true number on this list we keep hearing about is, the problem is because of this nanny state which we live in we are powerless to do **** all to them!!!

 

[Baker lite]

Pleas not Labour or Lib Dems

Not all the time I've got a hole in my arse..

 

[GT49er]

There is an awful lot of supposition in there.

Regardless, the scumbags who did this want division. They want a religious war to start. Concentrate on finding the bad guys, not pick on an entire religion.

No, not even supposition. There are facts, and genuine questions about how deep the rot is. The truth is, we don't know, and that's a fact.

And, if you concentrate on what I am actually saying, rather than applying your own slant, I am in full agreement that we should be finding the bad guys. And a good way to start is by finding out how many are the bad boys, and how many tacitly support them.

 

[e77]

I challenge you this.

Sometime in the next few days there will be a vox pop in a Muslim area with a big crowd of beards in attendance. The debate will go thus.

"Of course we condemn these acts but this is not the fault of Islam this is the fault of a few militants who are nothing to do with Islam, we are a religion of peace. To blame Islam is racist and islamophobic, we are already doing enough" blah blah blah.

This is the same trite bullshit we listen to and clap like morons on question time every week these days.

enough. Enough.

Call it out for what it is. Mute the Muslim leaders trying to deflect all criticism, challenge the apologists. Tell them to moderate, abandon this insane cult and get with Britain or clear off to sand land. Islam is not tolerant. It is responsible for the huge spike in anti semitism and outright carnage on our streets. Get out.

Don't see any evidence of that in here , for example.

 

[LVGull]

Not all the time I've got a hole in my arse..

Who you voting for then?

 

[GT49er]

I challenge you this.

Sometime in the next few days there will be a vox pop in a Muslim area with a big crowd of beards in attendance. The debate will go thus.

"Of course we condemn these acts but this is not the fault of Islam this is the fault of a few militants who are nothing to do with Islam, we are a religion of peace. To blame Islam is racist and islamophobic, we are already doing enough" blah blah blah.

This is the same trite bullshit we listen to and clap like morons on question time every week these days.

Nailed it! Thanks.

 

[symyjym]

Declaring war on Islamic State would be a start, then anyone affiliated with it can be treated as enemy combatants , spy's etc and fall under the rules and engagement of wartime . Easily removed from the streets and interned indefinitely, just like we did during wartime .


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I don't have a problem with this and I would include anyone preaching this Islamic ideology and demonising western culture in public. The least they should get are ASBO's. I've been watching videos from Speakers Corner weekly and there are a few there who specialise in undermining science, and when they get caught out and proved that they are lying they will still use that lie when promoting their bullshit to the next people they speak to.

Lying and deceiving people deliberately is evil.

The video below has a guy called Rob who has gone to great lengths to expose an evolution disputer. I would arrest this Suboor who is very good at what he has been trained to do. Deliberate deception in public should be an offense.

https://youtu.be/uJ9klapm_bg

 

[e77]

Whatever the true number on this list we keep hearing about is, the problem is because of this nanny state which we live in we are powerless to do **** all to them!!!

Perhaps if we hadn't lost 19,000 Police in the last few years we might be in a better position? There are legal frameworks in place for monitoring people but we have lost eyes on the ground.

It isn't the nanny state, it is cold hard cuts to public services that many of the same people currently wanting to deport all Muslims probably celebrated.

 

[Hillian1]

You know what's cheered me up this morning? Reading that drinkers in Borough Market fought back last night by luzzing chairs and drinks at those *******s.

Luzzing chairs at terrorists. I'm genuinely very proud of my fellow Brits.

There's a picture doing the rounds on twatter of a guy running away carrying his pint.

This makes me proud also, only here would you get someone caught up in terrorist incident and his first thought is "save the pint, I paid over 6 quid for that"

 

[5mins-from-amex]

This should be viewed as treason, ****ing animals! these are the type of Muslims the UK needs to deal with.

 

[easynow]

You know what's cheered me up this morning? Reading that drinkers in Borough Market fought back last night by luzzing chairs and drinks at those *******s.

Luzzing chairs at terrorists. I'm genuinely very proud of my fellow Brits.

Luzzing chairs is in our dna

 

[GT49er]

Don't see any evidence of that in here , for example.

But let's face it, you don't want to see 'any evidence of that', do you.


Yes, those are fine words. They may even mean them. After all, Theresa May probably believes 'enough is enough'. Nobody's saying there aren't some decent moslems around. The big question is, how many?

 

[easynow]

and the pic of the guy running away - carrying his almost-full pint 'I paid six quid for this, I'm not leaving it'

 

[5mins-from-amex]

Perhaps if we hadn't lost 19,000 Police in the last few years we might be in a better position? There are legal frameworks in place for monitoring people but we have lost eyes on the ground.

It isn't the nanny state, it is cold hard cuts to public services that many of the same people currently wanting to deport all Muslims probably celebrated.

Yes it is, and when you have local councils covering up mass rape gangs for fear of being labelled (insert fashionable word here) you have a big ****ing problem.