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GT49er

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My next door neighbour is Muslim with his wife and two daughters. He is a Taxi driver and a really nice bloke, but we haven't got a strong Muslim community down here, and we have never been a hding place for Muslim hate preachers. It's better for a Muslim to not live in a highly densely populated Muslim area because they don't get dragged into mixing with the extreme type. I think the more Muslims there are in an area the more Islamic they become.
Yes, I wouldn't disagree with any of that. The problem is where parts of towns and cities (like in Lancashire and Yorkshire, and Birmingham in a big way) have actually become Islamic territory - and no, now that it has happened like that, I don't know how to deal with the problem.
 




GT49er

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Classic, another one that can't get by being in opposition without having to resort to derogatory slants. What is it about people that have to resort to name calling when they can't get a point across? Enjoy your pack mentality.

Please specify what name I have called you. Of course, I know you won't. And, in spite of your desire that there should be one, there is no pack.
 


Leighgull

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Why do people like you think in black and white? why is it ALL Muslims, you start with getting tuff with the known sympathisers or those involved in hate speech.

I think you've missed the point. It isn't muslims that deserve the stick here it is the whole canon of Islamic thought, the Hadith, the Sura, the entire stinking hateful edifice if the religion.

It is a nasty, hate filled jumble of medieval thought crammed into a western world that has forgotten what it stands for and thinks that embracing hateful ideas is the only fate that our society deserves.

The Muslims call us crusaders, forgetting that the crusades lasted 400 years whilst the Islamic crusade has lasted for 1400 forcing the people of the Middle East to convert at the point of a sword and reaching Spain and France before being kicked out by the French at Vosges. If they had failed we would all be throwing gays off the London eye by now.

Islam is the problem. Muslims are the victims of their own religion and its crackpot ideas.

Dustbin.Now.
 


spence

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Mail reckons 7 dead
 


symyjym

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So, those lads from Saltdean getting killed fighting for ISIS and those arrests in Shoreham were all just a dream.

Thanks for clearing it up for me fella.

My nieghbour is a man not a rebelious teenager or twenty something. I know I am not living next to a potential suicide bomber I can assure you of that if this is what you are implying?
 




Tyrone Biggums

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So this IRA, did they come out of their trenches and fight an opposing force? Or did they just bomb people in a faceless way? I'm absolutely gobsmacked that you can find any kind of similarity towards fighting the IRA and the Argentinians, please convince me. Staggered.

They employed Guerilla warfare tactics. When faced against far bigger and superior forces it is a common tactic.

British forces helped organise and supply many guerrilla groups in WW2. Your military history is quite poor. Maybe read up on the British SOE.

This is your mind:

OK for us to defend our territory

NOT OK for anyone else to do it.
 


TheVicar

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This shit needs to be stamped out now! We area small island that has been a stronghold for centuries, this stuff shouldn't be tolerated!

We are British.. Since when has that meant bending over and taking one for the team?
 
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5mins-from-amex

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I think you've missed the point. It isn't muslims that deserve the stick here it is the whole canon of Islamic thought, the Hadith, the Sura, the entire stinking hateful edifice if the religion.

It is a nasty, hate filled jumble of medieval thought crammed into a western world that has forgotten what it stands for and thinks that embracing hateful ideas is the only fate that our society deserves.

The Muslims call us crusaders, forgetting that the crusades lasted 400 years whilst the Islamic crusade has lasted for 1400 forcing the people of the Middle East to convert at the point of a sword and reaching Spain and France before being kicked out by the French at Vosges. If they had failed we would all be throwing gays off the London eye by now.

Islam is the problem. Muslims are the victims of their own religion and its crackpot ideas.

Dustbin.Now.

I agree, but I have no other idea of what can be done? a ban on Islam wouldn't be an option, it would force it underground and it would become even more of a problem.
 




Sussex Nomad

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They employed Guerilla warfare tactics. When faced against far bigger and superior forces it is a common tactic.

British forces helped organise and supply many guerrilla groups in WW2. Your military history is quite poor. Maybe read up on the British SOE.

This is your mind:

OK for us to defend our territory

NOT OK for anyone else to do it.

So you fail to tell me the difference between conventional warfare where soldiers fight soldiers and terrorism, where terrorists blow up civilians, can you please explain?
 


GT49er

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This shit needs to be stamped out now! We area small island that has been a stronghold for centuries, this stuff shouldn't be tolerated!

We are British.. Since when has that meant bending over and taking one for the team?

For about the last twenty/twenty five years would be my guess, sadly....................................
 














5mins-from-amex

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For about the last twenty/twenty five years would be my guess, sadly....................................

Correct! this country has lost its backbone, blokes with man bags, skinny jeans and ****ing hipsters.
 


easynow

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I think you've missed the point. It isn't muslims that deserve the stick here it is the whole canon of Islamic thought, the Hadith, the Sura, the entire stinking hateful edifice if the religion.

It is a nasty, hate filled jumble of medieval thought crammed into a western world that has forgotten what it stands for and thinks that embracing hateful ideas is the only fate that our society deserves.

The Muslims call us crusaders, forgetting that the crusades lasted 400 years whilst the Islamic crusade has lasted for 1400 forcing the people of the Middle East to convert at the point of a sword and reaching Spain and France before being kicked out by the French at Vosges. If they had failed we would all be throwing gays off the London eye by now.

Islam is the problem. Muslims are the victims of their own religion and its crackpot ideas.

Dustbin.Now.

I remember reading a few years back that soon after 9/11, many Sikh men in the USA have been victims of abuse, attacks and some have been killed simply because they wore turbans. Their Silk religion strongly focuses on good deeds and treating all people equally. We all feel anger towards the attackers and what they represent, but there are others that should be mindful of how their strong hatred and anger towards muslims may affect those around them in their daily life, i.e; hating/disliking someone that looks a bit muslim etc. This is what divides communities, towns and countries etc and it's what these scum attackers want.
 


Leighgull

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My nieghbour is a man not a rebelious teenager or twenty something. I know I am not living next to a potential suicide bomber I can assure you of that if this is what you are implying?

I'm not implying anything about your neighbour but I would say this.

A few years back I got really pally with a Bangladeshi bloke who I worked with. He was a pharmacist and was married to a Brit girl who behaved really bad so he divorced her. I was mates with the guy and he was really messed up as his family had disowned him when he married outside his faith and he was struggling with his marriage collapse alone.

After a bit of shagging around he ended up going back to Bangladesh for an arranged marriage with a girl his dad had picked for him...when he got back he had changed. Gone was my happy go lucky western mate instead I got this stern faced beardy nut who told me that I was no longer his friend but we could be pals if only I disavowed my atheism and converted to Islam.

He then told me that everything that this country stood for was a sinful reproach to Allah and that all of our female friends were whores.

We ain't friends no more. Oh no.
 






symyjym

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I agree, but I have no other idea of what can be done? a ban on Islam wouldn't be an option, it would force it underground and it would become even more of a problem.

I would make it illegal to build any more purpose built mosques, or give them planning permission to add domes, pillas to old buidings they take over. No more building statements. In Egypt Christians are not allowed to build new churches and I don't think there are any churches in Saudi. Check out the Pact of Umar.

If I was PM, I would say this tomorrow and sign it off legally with an executive order..

I would even consider taxing Muslims like they would tax us for not being Muslim with the Jizya. Just £5 a month to make a statement.
 


Sussex Nomad

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One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. French Resistance undertook many things the IRA did.

You're the deluded one.

I'll connect with you one last time because you are deluded. The French resistance targeted uniformed Germans that were occupying their country in a world war. The IRA targeted English civilians in England, that was not their country. You sound a bit strange and I shall not give you any more of a platform.
 


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