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Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
When?

Currently it's being given to:

some people aged 80 and over who already have a hospital appointment in the next few weeks
people who live or work in care homes
health care workers at high risk

that is not all NHS staff.

Last I heard they were top of the list, seems that may have changed. But daft if so.
 






Trelford Mills Guide Dog

Active member
Jun 14, 2008
575
What a marvellous job Johnson has done. Steered us skilfully to the second highest Covid death rate in Europe and delivered a no-deal, sorry I mean "Australian style" Brexit even though he had an oven ready deal in place.

It's almost as if literally absolutely anyone else would have been improvement on a fat bumbling cretinous serial liar.


Quite literally no one would have done a better job than Boris Johnson !
 








maltaseagull

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Feb 25, 2009
13,361
Zabbar- Malta
I know everyone hates Boris and the Tories but it's not them doing the vaccine rollout. Someone in the other thread regularly points out that the NHS does 15 million flu vaccinations every single year. The infrastructure and protocols already exist, it just needs to be scaled up.

Even if the numbers are only on a par with the yearly flu vaccine almost every vulnerable person will be vaccinated by March.

My issue is not so much with Boris and the Tories.
Nobody in the world knew how best to deal with this pandemic and only a few countries seem to have dealt with it reasonably well.
My issue is the constant promises made by Ministers and the PM which are not met.

World beating testing.
World beating tracking.
Normal by Easter now we have the vaccine.
And so on.
 




sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
the govt. are ****ed no matter what , this virus is here to stay , what you have to do is decide with your loved ones if you are going to take being locked up for christmas and possibly never seeing some of your nearest and dearest ever again .....it has to be your choice , wear a mask , social distance , wash your hands , if you feel ill stay in bed away from everyone , but if you are fit and healthy and you want to go out .....just do it...!!
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
My issue is not so much with Boris and the Tories.
Nobody in the world knew how best to deal with this pandemic and only a few countries seem to have dealt with it reasonably well.
My issue is the constant promises made by Ministers and the PM which are not met.

World beating testing.
World beating tracking.
Normal by Easter now we have the vaccine.
And so on.

'you people doing a runner out of St Pancras on Saturday night are the scum of the earth'....







... Had they been going to Barnard's Castle, they would have been fine.
 


Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
4,952
Way out West
Boris thinks it's like WW2 (plenty of evidence in his previous utterings, by the way). So "propaganda" is perfectly fine. That means relentless telling of brazen lies to keep the spirits up, and deflect away from government cock-ups. Pretty much nothing he says, or his fellow ministers say, can be accepted as true.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
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You HAVE to realise that the numbers fluctuate guys.

Is a number fluctuating if it only moves in one direction?
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,464
Hove
Is a number fluctuating if it only moves in one direction?

:mad::lolol:
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Poojah

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Nov 19, 2010
1,881
Leeds
Is a number fluctuating if it only moves in one direction?

In my professional life, if there's one word that pisses me off more than any other it's 'fluctuating'. I work in performance marketing, a world whereby the quality of the work that you do is very tangible and measurable - it is every bit a results-based business. We're good at what we do, and so fortunately most of the time when reporting back to clients the story is positive; as with any business however there are of course moments when things aren't going entirely to plan.

The biggest rookie mistake I see people make is saying that things have 'fluctuated' when something has moved in a negative direction. In nearly 20 years of the business, I have never heard the word used in a positive context.

My advice to these young people who are often very talented but nervous of pissing a client off is always the same; don't try to obscure a problem with fluffy language but rather own it instead. Be the first to raise it, explain clearly what the problem is, why it is happening, what the fúck you're doing about it and when it will be resolved. People can handle bad news if they have trust and confidence in you to address it robustly.

I just feel that this cabinet is consciously guilty of this rookie error, time and time again. Most people aren't idiots and are capable of reading the sub-text. Just explain what's going on and what you're doing to fix it FFS. What they are doing is deceitful, and it's this fact that is the reason that the public have no trust or confidence in them to fall back on, in turn worsening the vicious circle caused by their bullshít and bluster.

Absolute shysters.
 




blue-shifted

Banned
Feb 20, 2004
7,645
a galaxy far far away
In my professional life, if there's one word that pisses me off more than any other it's 'fluctuating'. I work in performance marketing, a world whereby the quality of the work that you do is very tangible and measurable - it is every bit a results-based business. We're good at what we do, and so fortunately most of the time when reporting back to clients the story is positive; as with any business however there are of course moments when things aren't going entirely to plan.

The biggest rookie mistake I see people make is saying that things have 'fluctuated' when something has moved in a negative direction. In nearly 20 years of the business, I have never heard the word used in a positive context.

My advice to these young people who are often very talented but nervous of pissing a client off is always the same; don't try to obscure a problem with fluffy language but rather own it instead. Be the first to raise it, explain clearly what the problem is, why it is happening, what the fúck you're doing about it and when it will be resolved. People can handle bad news if they have trust and confidence in you to address it robustly.

I just feel that this cabinet is consciously guilty of this rookie error, time and time again. Most people aren't idiots and are capable of reading the sub-text. Just explain what's going on and what you're doing to fix it FFS. What they are doing is deceitful, and it's this fact that is the reason that the public have no trust or confidence in them to fall back on, in turn worsening the vicious circle caused by their bullshít and bluster.

Absolute shysters.

Are you sure?

The Tories are still ahead in the polls, or thereabouts anyway, I mean what would they have to do to get voted out? Can't blame incompetent opposition now.

If people weren't idiots, we wouldn't have this government and, ahem, other political decisions may have been made differently.

As a nation, we deserve the government we have, and we deserve the decades of decline and misery about to befall us.
 




Sarisbury Seagull

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Nov 22, 2007
15,010
Sarisbury Green, Southampton
My issue is not so much with Boris and the Tories.
Nobody in the world knew how best to deal with this pandemic and only a few countries seem to have dealt with it reasonably well.
My issue is the constant promises made by Ministers and the PM which are not met.

World beating testing.
World beating tracking.
Normal by Easter now we have the vaccine.
And so on.

Don't forget, 'significant return to normality by Christmas.'

The Christmas thing is a fiasco, he should never have announced a loosening of restrictions at the point he did. Anyone with half a brain cell and an eye on the figures knew this u-turn was going to happen. I feel so sorry for people who have made plans and had to now change them last minute causing upset and as I've seen first hand, arguments in families.

It's just bullshit after bullshit. He opens his mouth and more crap falls out. He is a disgrace. No one wonder no one knows what to think or do. And then when cases go up, you can be sure that he and his corrupt bunch of cronies will indirectly blame the public.

What gets me is the amount of people who I speak to or see on social media who forgive him for absolutely everything and all of the false, unrealistic promises. I hear so much 'poor Boris, no one could do any better' or 'this has never happened before, how could anyone know what to do' or 'he's trying is best'. These are quite often decent people with what I thought was some intelligence. How has he pulled the wool over so many eyes?!
 


Bozza

You can change this
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Jul 4, 2003
57,289
Back in Sussex
Don't forget, 'significant return to normality by Christmas.'

The Christmas thing is a fiasco, Johnson, Sturgeon, Drakeford and Foster should never have announced a loosening of restrictions at the point they did. Anyone with half a brain cell and an eye on the figures knew this u-turn was going to happen. I feel so sorry for people who have made plans and had to now change them last minute causing upset and as I've seen first hand, arguments in families.

Fixed for you.
 








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