happypig
Staring at the rude boys
If he does, Raab would take probably take over.
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PM's announcement - at some point today, when he feels like it
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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If he does, Raab would take probably take over.
yxee
Well-known member
Anything this govt does is wrong if you're anti Tory. But having said that I do hope to hear a good reason why we waited so long, the timing seems quite poor this time around
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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They were hoping to avoid a national lockdown altogether because of money
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Or Gove!
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Corrected for you
yxee
Well-known member
Treat people kindly
What about the businesses in the supply chain?
It’s not that simple.
Why should pubs and restaurants get that level of support whilst self employed have had nothing?
How about retail shops?
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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the Sage advice is heavily bias to medical only opinion, while government have to weigh up a few others. Sage advise back formed in September was full lockdown, excluding education (largest single source of cases at time), when most the country had low levels - would you honestly have followed that if you had to look at wider impacts? at the time we had councils with high rates objecting to some greater restrictions, to save the pubs. if people actually followed the simple guidance (also from Sage) then we might not be here - its spreading in the community. one month on, things have changed, the weight of information and outcomes change.
dont think it will be full lockdown like spring. it'll be national tier 3 ish, or some other contrivance, because they need to avoid lockdown for both the economy and politics. i think they are following France and others, we may not need a stricter lockdown now but they are gambling on acting rather give it another week or two and see how stats are. or they have seen something nasty in source data this week.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Sturgeon asking people not to travel to or from England and Drakeford saying the Welsh cabinet will discuss potential border issues tomorrow that may arise from the 4pm announcement. I wonder what's going to be announced. 
Moved to 5 p. m.
Obviously they can’t sober up Johnson as quickly as they thought.
Obviously they can’t sober up Johnson as quickly as they thought.
They reckon about 2% of cases are linked to hospitality so probably wouldn't help a great deal.
dejavuatbtn
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He’s announcing a shortage ........ no shit!
Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
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Pubs to continue to close at 10pm
At 22:01, The Purge starts.
At 22:01, The Purge starts.
That's what was said on the radion this morning.
Yes, I am perhaps being unfair to Boris, but I was not impressed when he accused Starmer of opportunism when he advocated following Sage advice.
All that said, as I posted elsewhere, if Covid is a seasonal flu (as the Hopkins data suggests) the rises and falls in cases during 2020 everywhere in the world (apart from the US) are simply following the seasonal pattern. That means there is very little we can do to change the pattern of infection. If it is argued that the peaks could have been dampened by correct action then I go back to my oiginal premise - the fact that the UK has been hit harder than most reflects our dithering government and Boris' crap leadership.
Now 5pm
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Cripes-a-lordy - it's going to clash with the rugger in Rome now.
And drives socialising underground. Yes I have a vested interest but in all honesty having visited over 200 outlets in the last number of months varying from large hotels to small bars/restaurants I hardly come across any that I feel aren’t following the guidelines.
Yes this has been in the south from Kent to Dorset.
Whoah. Hold on. It’s a scientific advisory board. It’s not biased, more it’s acting within scope.