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PMQ - Boris v Starmer - Spider And The Fly
- Thread starter Tom Hark Preston Park
- Start date
Mind you, it won't help Starmer that he stated he was "quoting" from the guidance, when actually he was 'paraphrasing'.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The National Debt has tripled since 2010.
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Hove / Παρος
No doubt with a bunch of fat Tories picking up the ever mounting interest through various underhand methods
Daddy Boris (Grumpy Trumpy) must be so happy the Democrats doubled down on unvoteables.
Hopefully Starmer can buck the recent trend of dumbing down our political leaders.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Not forgetting the Tories cheering when the nurses' pay rise was turned down, and removing the bursaries for tuition fees.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
There have been a few references lately to The Lord of the Flies with that story emerging about the boys actually marooned on an island for 18 months. With the removal of the braying mobs on both sides and Starmer asking on the detail it does feel a bit like the arrival of the grown-ups at the end of the book.
It's a relief to see intelligent questions being asked. It should not be that difficult to provide intelligent and truthful answers.
It's a relief to see intelligent questions being asked. It should not be that difficult to provide intelligent and truthful answers.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
blimey
It's only Mouldy Boots on another wind up, think Alf Garnett when you read any of his posts and you will be fine.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,766
Absolutely correct.
All it takes is someone who is prepared to put in the hours, work hard, check the background research, and is capable of dealing with a reasonable level of detailed information .................... Oh
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,766
The difference being that Warren Mitchell always knew he was playing the part of an idiot and was in on the joke.
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,263
I recommend anyone to go on YouTube and watch the exchange between Johnson and Starmer in PMQs today.
What interest me is the contrast between Corbyn and Starmer. Corbyn's criticism of May / Johnson was always presented with a socialist slant, and therefor Corbyn's words were inextricably linked with his political philosophy. Starmer, on the other hand, keeps the politics out of it and concentrates on exposing weakness in the government's words and deeds. This way, he denies the Tories the fall-back position of rallying their backbenchers by just having a go at Labour - which is something Theresa May did time and again when Corbyn would gain the upper hand.
Starmer is relentless, but what is encouraging is the way he applies logic. A Labour Party under his control is unlikely to be tupthumping and ideological, but have policy shaped by consideration and need. This makes his party more agreeable to the centre ground. There is a long road ahead before he'll get an opportunity to govern but eventually I could see him emulating Blair in 1997 and winning a GE with a thumping majority.
I look forward to see how he gets to grip with anti-semitism and Momentum.
What interest me is the contrast between Corbyn and Starmer. Corbyn's criticism of May / Johnson was always presented with a socialist slant, and therefor Corbyn's words were inextricably linked with his political philosophy. Starmer, on the other hand, keeps the politics out of it and concentrates on exposing weakness in the government's words and deeds. This way, he denies the Tories the fall-back position of rallying their backbenchers by just having a go at Labour - which is something Theresa May did time and again when Corbyn would gain the upper hand.
Starmer is relentless, but what is encouraging is the way he applies logic. A Labour Party under his control is unlikely to be tupthumping and ideological, but have policy shaped by consideration and need. This makes his party more agreeable to the centre ground. There is a long road ahead before he'll get an opportunity to govern but eventually I could see him emulating Blair in 1997 and winning a GE with a thumping majority.
I look forward to see how he gets to grip with anti-semitism and Momentum.
Has he still got a picture of Nigel, or Boris in a Union flag suit, or 'get brexit done' as his avatar (I have him, you know....)?
Honestly, it's only one short of walking around with your cock hanging out of your trousers
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
Very true !
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Indeed, good points. As you say, the acid test will be when he has to present Labour's ideas and policies in a structured, credible and party-united fashion.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
If the last 4 years has taught me 1 thing, it's that the people of Great Britain don't like un-elected bureaucrats.
Easy to say with hind sight!
Lucky they weren't warned to prepare for a pandemic for years then. Lucky they didn't have a fair warning looking at Italy, Spain and China. Lucky Boris wasn't warned against human contact and decided he was going to shake hands regardless.
maltaseagull
Well-known member
Ok but what about the opposition ? And I am sure debt will be far more than that
Grombleton
Surrounded by <div>s
- Dec 31, 2011
- 7,356
Underrated post, this.